NicoM
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Anyone own both an OMD camera and a X100s? If so, which do you prefer and why?
Own OMD and X100s?
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GaryLH
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Em5 and x100, not the x100s.
Different cameras different uses. Omd is my basic nature/animal photography camera because of 2x lens factor and best stabilization setup out there.
X100 has been superseded by other cameras such as Ricoh gr and xe1 w/ 27 pancake but still being used now as a vacation camera option. When I was using it initially, it was my goto grab camera heading out the door.
Gary
Different cameras different uses. Omd is my basic nature/animal photography camera because of 2x lens factor and best stabilization setup out there.
X100 has been superseded by other cameras such as Ricoh gr and xe1 w/ 27 pancake but still being used now as a vacation camera option. When I was using it initially, it was my goto grab camera heading out the door.
Gary
gavinlg
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I've used both quite a bit. OMD sensor is verging on too small unless you like everything in focus most of the time. OMD body has far more fiddly/tiny buttons and is endlessly customisable which can be a good or a bad thing depending on how simple you like your cameras to be. The OVF in the x100s makes the EVF in the OMD look like one of those toy cameras that project slides. The AF of the OMD is slightly faster but it does depend on lenses. The build quality of the OMD gives the impression of durability but I think the x100s is more durable overall.
From an ergonomic and IQ point of view IMO the x100s is the better camera by a fair margin.
All IMO.
From an ergonomic and IQ point of view IMO the x100s is the better camera by a fair margin.
All IMO.
GaryLH
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Yeah. I agree about the buttons. Overal image iq will go to xtran.. But for my use for the camera, I need to tele range and fast af.
Gary
Gary
Johann Espiritu
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I own and use both, alongside an M240. My thoughts:
1. Overall IQ goes to the X100s. Less CMOS-y looking, and more malleable to suit my tastes.
2. EVF + OVF/EVF = goes to the X100s.
3. Weather sealing and overall toughness goes to the OM-D. With a weathersealed lens on, you can take this many places. Add the PanaLeica 25/1.4 to your arsenal, and you get on e of the best 50mm (equiv) street shooters out there.
4. Better controls on the X100s, but almost every time I toss it into my bag, it gets inadvertently switched on and some photos are taken (especially with a soft release screwed on). This has led to some unexpected battery deaths!
5. AF = OM-D, any day.
In the end, if I had to choose one, I'd take the X100s (35mm is my focal length). If it san't then the OM-D might be better.
1. Overall IQ goes to the X100s. Less CMOS-y looking, and more malleable to suit my tastes.
2. EVF + OVF/EVF = goes to the X100s.
3. Weather sealing and overall toughness goes to the OM-D. With a weathersealed lens on, you can take this many places. Add the PanaLeica 25/1.4 to your arsenal, and you get on e of the best 50mm (equiv) street shooters out there.
4. Better controls on the X100s, but almost every time I toss it into my bag, it gets inadvertently switched on and some photos are taken (especially with a soft release screwed on). This has led to some unexpected battery deaths!
5. AF = OM-D, any day.
In the end, if I had to choose one, I'd take the X100s (35mm is my focal length). If it san't then the OM-D might be better.
fireblade
Vincenzo.
I have the 3 now....
OMD...stays in the bag, versatile.
X100...my son has it now, and I didn't mind because...
the DP2M has taken over...superb files.
OMD...stays in the bag, versatile.
X100...my son has it now, and I didn't mind because...
the DP2M has taken over...superb files.
emmef2
Established
I have E-P5 and X100s, I prefer both, I use the E-P5 with zooms and the X100s for more thoughtful shots.
E-P5:
+ fast AF and versatile
+ shadow/highlight exposure indicators allow quickly to tailor the exposure without ruining the highlights
+ 5 axis IBIS makes wonders when working in low light
X100s
+ OVF/EVF combo is so useful
+ silent leaf shutter
+ RAW E-P5 IQ is good, the X100s RAWs is slightly sharper, with less noise and a more natural look
- battery indicator is useless but if you shot using the OVF and without image review like a film camera (and no flash!) you can get 600 shots per charge
E-P5:
+ fast AF and versatile
+ shadow/highlight exposure indicators allow quickly to tailor the exposure without ruining the highlights
+ 5 axis IBIS makes wonders when working in low light
X100s
+ OVF/EVF combo is so useful
+ silent leaf shutter
+ RAW E-P5 IQ is good, the X100s RAWs is slightly sharper, with less noise and a more natural look
- battery indicator is useless but if you shot using the OVF and without image review like a film camera (and no flash!) you can get 600 shots per charge
marcr1230
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I have omd e-m1 and x100s
The x100s has been in the shelf since I got the E-M1
The Oly is much more versatile and appropriate for my needs
Might have to gift the x100s to my kid
The x100s has been in the shelf since I got the E-M1
The Oly is much more versatile and appropriate for my needs
Might have to gift the x100s to my kid
semordnilap
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I've had an x100s for 8 months, I love it. I just got an OMD EM-1, and I enjoy that as well. The Oly is maddening... everyone talks about how customizable it is, but really there are just some infuriating design decisions, things that can't be assigned certain places, other strange options. It feels half-customizable to me. Button placement isn't great for me (AE-L is in a terrible and nearly useless location, FN1 isn't much better). Fuji button placement is much better. Wish I could use a soft release with the Oly—I like that a lot about the fuji.
AF on the OLY seems to be light years ahead... Decent even in lower light, though I haven't used it that much in low light yet. AF is excellent in good light. Manual focusing on the fuji is a thousand times better, largely because for some bizarre reason Olympus cripples the EVF when focus peaking is on—brightness and frame rate drop significantly, and I have no idea why. They don't on Fujis or Sonys, so it just boggles my mind.
Anyway, for my purposes, both are great:
x100s as a carry anywhere, great for low light. Very nice to have a brightline OVF.
EM-1 as a dslr replacement, nice to work with a zoom or macro. I really like that I've got a 24-80e 2.8 zoom that's, well, reasonably sized.
I haven't dug into the Oly files enough yet to do an IQ comparison, but I'd be surprised if I found it to be very different from what was discussed above, with the Fuji coming out ahead.
AF on the OLY seems to be light years ahead... Decent even in lower light, though I haven't used it that much in low light yet. AF is excellent in good light. Manual focusing on the fuji is a thousand times better, largely because for some bizarre reason Olympus cripples the EVF when focus peaking is on—brightness and frame rate drop significantly, and I have no idea why. They don't on Fujis or Sonys, so it just boggles my mind.
Anyway, for my purposes, both are great:
x100s as a carry anywhere, great for low light. Very nice to have a brightline OVF.
EM-1 as a dslr replacement, nice to work with a zoom or macro. I really like that I've got a 24-80e 2.8 zoom that's, well, reasonably sized.
I haven't dug into the Oly files enough yet to do an IQ comparison, but I'd be surprised if I found it to be very different from what was discussed above, with the Fuji coming out ahead.
marcr1230
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ok - as noted above, I have both.
The X100s was on the shelf for a while, and then due to a repair on the OM-D E-M1, I took the X100s on a vacation as my only camera.
The X100s is ergonomically among the best - the controls are basically just what you need, no more, no less. it is easy to operate and hard to forget the menus/control function
The OVF is gorgeous. The IQ is spectacular. I was shooting at 3200 in near complete darkness in churches, handheld at slow shutter speeds, and the results were way beyond my expectations in terms of sharpness and saturation/exposure/noise.
The silent mode on the X100s is really silent, this is the quietest camera I've ever used.
the major limitation on the X100s is the fixed lens - sometimes the 35mm equiv is not what you need and then theres not much to do.
The E-M1 is a different beast, rugged, small yet not too small, great size for travel.
focus is great in most situations, the EVF is spectacular , IBIS to die for, lens selection almost to die for.
the weatherproofing of the E-M1 make it a wonderful little package to use in harsh environments. IQ is great, I've printed up to 16x24" and have no hesitations.
OOC jpegs are rich, almost never need to use RAW.
the downside of the E-M1 is the complicated menu/control/button system - the simple controls are easy to use and figure out - but the customization of buttons and the enable/disable of many of the wonderful options is buried in the menu system.
downside of the E-M1 - few really wide primes, IQ at high ISO's not quite as good as DSLR's
If I had to choose 1 camera - it would be the E-M1, it's more of a do anything camera.
The X100s is good for street, in home, travel etc, but not as flexible as a system camera for obvious reasons
The X100s was on the shelf for a while, and then due to a repair on the OM-D E-M1, I took the X100s on a vacation as my only camera.
The X100s is ergonomically among the best - the controls are basically just what you need, no more, no less. it is easy to operate and hard to forget the menus/control function
The OVF is gorgeous. The IQ is spectacular. I was shooting at 3200 in near complete darkness in churches, handheld at slow shutter speeds, and the results were way beyond my expectations in terms of sharpness and saturation/exposure/noise.
The silent mode on the X100s is really silent, this is the quietest camera I've ever used.
the major limitation on the X100s is the fixed lens - sometimes the 35mm equiv is not what you need and then theres not much to do.
The E-M1 is a different beast, rugged, small yet not too small, great size for travel.
focus is great in most situations, the EVF is spectacular , IBIS to die for, lens selection almost to die for.
the weatherproofing of the E-M1 make it a wonderful little package to use in harsh environments. IQ is great, I've printed up to 16x24" and have no hesitations.
OOC jpegs are rich, almost never need to use RAW.
the downside of the E-M1 is the complicated menu/control/button system - the simple controls are easy to use and figure out - but the customization of buttons and the enable/disable of many of the wonderful options is buried in the menu system.
downside of the E-M1 - few really wide primes, IQ at high ISO's not quite as good as DSLR's
If I had to choose 1 camera - it would be the E-M1, it's more of a do anything camera.
The X100s is good for street, in home, travel etc, but not as flexible as a system camera for obvious reasons
ZlatkoBatistich
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I had the X100S and now have the E-M1. The X100S is better at high ISO and if you prefer the optical viewfinder. The X100S also has built-in flash. The E-M1 comes with a small attachable flash. The E-M1 is better for speedy autofocus, weather sealing, and jpeg color out of the camera. The E-M1 is almost endlessly customizable. It's a chore to customize it, but once you've done so it can be very speedy to use. The X100S has a nice panorama mode. The E-M1 buttons and wheels have a better feel. It also has a wonderful image stabilization system. Most importantly, the E-M1 allows a wide range of lenses, making it the more versatile camera.
I feel that Canon does menus right. I wish that Fuji and Olympus would borrow Canon's menu concepts.
I feel that Canon does menus right. I wish that Fuji and Olympus would borrow Canon's menu concepts.
AncientCityPhoto
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I use the E-m1 with the 12-40 2.8 as my main travel camera now. That gets "the work" done. Much better bracketing options, way better focusing options, finer use of exposure, almost lifelike EVF, etc.. etc... Better IQ, larger file. Also, I love the customization and button layout and have it set exactly how I prefer to work. The X100 (i keep the original since I like the sensor look better than the X-trans) became my "pocket camera." I took the filter holder and hood off and use the original lens cap now. It fits in a jacket or vest pocket. I use it for fun shots, quick grabs, street shots, and as a backup to the E-m1. Also, the flash sync is great at all speeds with the leaf shutter so any daylight portraits that need shallow DOF and flash I use the X100. Two entirely different cameras.
However, since getting the E-m1, the only cameras sitting on the shelf are the canons (unless a work specific project requires them somehow) and the Leicas. I use to use the M8 and the Fuji.
However, since getting the E-m1, the only cameras sitting on the shelf are the canons (unless a work specific project requires them somehow) and the Leicas. I use to use the M8 and the Fuji.
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