P&S Advise Needed

Handheld for 8 seconds!? You must have no pulse.

Ed


MelanieC said:
There's no small point and shoot that allows you to really play with depth of field. They all also have SOME shutter lag although it can be minimized by prefocusing. I haven't found a short lag to be a problem but I also don't take photos the same way with a P&S as I do with my real cameras.

I have the D-Lux 3 and am very happy with it. The RAW write speed is very fast for my purposes. The RAW files are very good and require little post-processing in my experience. I tend not to use the camera above 200 ISO but if you do and you shoot RAW you can make a reasonable facsimile of film grain out of the noise. If it matters, the movie mode is excellent.

Some examples here:

http://www.pbase.com/miranc/image/71983229 (jpg handheld at ISO 100 for 8 seconds)
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Fujifilm F30, Canon SD700IS, Canon SD800IS. I've researched this same question but have not purchased anything yet. The Fuji is the low noise at high ISO winner. The Canons are smaller and also do a great job, albeit with higher noise levels. The Canons also have true image stabilization. All three are smaller than my D200 ;-)

Oops, I just noticed that you decided to buy the Ricoh GR-D. Well, I think you're making a mistake, but then I wouldn't buy an M8, either. To each his/her own. Best wishes.
 
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Flyfisher Tom said:
interesting excerpt about the GRD ... I wonder what he thinks of it relative to the LX1 ... judging by his photos, the LX1 is highly capable as well.
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Tom I'll try and find out then post his response here.

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He said:
"Ricoh didn't tried to remove or blur it, and that
is good, because if you really want to, you can use some
good plugins to perform this task, instead of some limited
processing of a small camera."

This is not entirely accurate. In exposures starting at 1 sec, the GRD will apply rather heavy noise cancelation to the image, to the point that the lose of detail is noticable. Oh well, you can't have everything I guess.

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Ben,
One thing is certain- Matador* is a master with the GRD. If I can get some of his goodness and learn from him then this will have been a purchase worth the cost of admission. "It's not the arrow it's the Indian" and Matador* is one Indian I pay close attention to in the world of P&S photography- along with Captainvideo who also highly recommended this camera to me also due to it’s IQ and it’s user interface that according them, overrides any other concerns where the finished product is the main event. These guys don’t strike me as pixel peepers- not miss the forest for the trees shooters, no way.

Examples: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=331484886&size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=334779160&size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=355016419&context=set-72157594206885131&size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=271197859&context=set-72157594206885131&size=l
 
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No doubt, the NR is a relatively small issue. However, being someone who values the portability of the GRD and hence perform many long exposure effect shots at odd angels (due to its portability) with said camera, I would have liked the long exposure frames to poses the same quality as the short exposure ones.

Like I said, Matador looks to be a skilled photographer to begin with. It's not his skills with the GRD you should be trying to learn, but rather his style of photography (if that's what you're trying to achieve)
 
Exactly- the GRD's interface will help me to learn this, to "relax" with the camera and then in turn I will have learned how to relax (more often) with the M8 and this will make me a better photog. Photography is a little like golf in the "mental" game aspect. I'm looking not only for a back up tool to the M8 but also for a little "cross training."
 
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