yesaroos
Established
hi all.. I've got a Pentax PC-333 yesterday, having shoot 1 roll it start to rewind as expect.. but I noticed that it leave the film leader out, I think its convenient if you do DIY film development..
Is there any other P&S with these feature?
Is there any other P&S with these feature?
f16sunshine
Moderator
One thing a photographer can do with a camera that has autowind is clip the film leader so it's ready to load onto a spool before one even loads tthe film into the camera..
Nearly any camera with autowind and auto re-wind will be very co-operative with this technique.
Simply clip off the extra bit of film leader, trim the corners of the film, and ....load it up in the camera.
When the roll is done and the camera rewinds the roll into the cannister it will be all ready to load onto a film developing spool.
No need for scissors in the darkbag or darkroom to trim off the leader before spooling up!
Cheers!
Nearly any camera with autowind and auto re-wind will be very co-operative with this technique.
Simply clip off the extra bit of film leader, trim the corners of the film, and ....load it up in the camera.
When the roll is done and the camera rewinds the roll into the cannister it will be all ready to load onto a film developing spool.
No need for scissors in the darkbag or darkroom to trim off the leader before spooling up!
Cheers!
petronius
Veteran
The Nikon TW2AF leaves the leader out too.
sanmich
Veteran
The Hexar makes a small pause at the end of the rewinding, just before pulling in the leader. which allows you to open the door and stop the rewind.
yesaroos
Established
thanks for the tips.. never cut leader too when bulk loading, just straight cut & clip the edge a bit..
nice to know.. seems this feature isn't popular..
love to try Hexar someday..
The Klasse S and W can be set to leave the film leader out or wind it fully in.
V-12
Well-known
I've never left the leader out as it begs to be loaded again if the situation of exposed and un-exposed films becomes confusing, like working quickly or in dark conditions. But its worth bearing in mind that Ilford don't recommend running the film too many times through the light trap given that each time it increases the risk of scratches. Yes, I know there will be the 'it has never happened to me' person, but I imagine Ilford have done more testing and seen films from more people than the 'me' person.
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yesaroos
Established
no.. its not for re-use the film 'a-la lomo', more in less hassle side (no need for film retriever)..
I'll fold the leader to avoid mixing between exposed & un-exposed roll..
begona
Goran Begoña
Also, you can program Contax TVSIII to leave film leader out
btgc
Veteran
Don't remember for sure but I guess Ricoh FF-70/700 does it.
oltimer
Well-known
On my 2 Pz1p's, the option is available to leave the film leader out, or to totally rewind inside the canister when rewinding on a finished roll.
V-12
Well-known
Fair enough, the real point was about dragging the film another time through the light trap, but if you are happy and scratches have never happened to you I hope you continue to be lucky.
Some people make their own luck by not dragging it through yet again and using a can opener on the cassette.
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B-9
Devin Bro
I've re-used cassettes for DX coding in P&S camera's...the felt trap issue I feel is being exaggerated.
I got the idea here years ago, and it works just fine for a few uses. Ive only ever gotten 2-3 uses out a cassette before that felt just cant be laid flat again, toss it.
Last year I took advantage of a sale B&H was having and ordered 20 or so Reloadable cassettes. The tops pop on and off making the leader a non issue for me. Just gotta clean the dog hair out of the traps every now and again
No Scratching so far.
No help with the leader out question, but good luck on your hunt!
I got the idea here years ago, and it works just fine for a few uses. Ive only ever gotten 2-3 uses out a cassette before that felt just cant be laid flat again, toss it.
Last year I took advantage of a sale B&H was having and ordered 20 or so Reloadable cassettes. The tops pop on and off making the leader a non issue for me. Just gotta clean the dog hair out of the traps every now and again
No Scratching so far.No help with the leader out question, but good luck on your hunt!
kaiwasoyokaze
Half Frame Goodness
the nikon l35af leaves the tip out. (l35af aka pikaichi)
jbielikowski
Jan Bielikowski
After recent affair with Yashica T4 (without that feature) I learned to use Film Puller and its easier than trying to find camera that leave film leader so you can use any camera you like. Also I like the method Andy mentioned, sounds clever.
Aristo
Member
A custom function on the Contax T3.
f16sunshine
Moderator
I don't think pulling through the light trap is the goal.
Rather it's to have the leader out for cutting in daylight and then winding it back in. I have never once loaded a developing spool withot removing the film from the cannister first.
Like I said before, I just trim up the film before loading. I've never had an autowind camera that required the pointed leader to load up.
A blunt and cut film end loads fine in all of mine.
I guess some would also have the leader out in order to make half roll film changes.
Personally when using a P+S I just load another one if I need a different film.
I often carry a few cameras when I know there is a need for different films.
How will you know? Well, if you knew to bring a different film to change half roll you....
Carrying a pair of Stylus MJU2 cameras is hardly a burden when the benifit can be great!
Greyscale
Veteran
Every Nikon that I have used leaves the leader out.
Number 6
Prisoner
David Hughes
David Hughes
How about those cameras that unwind the unexposed film on to the spool first and then run backwards so that the exposed ones go into the cassette as you shoot? Just stop after frame 24 or 36, expose another frame and open the back in a changing bag, perhaps...
Regards, David
Regards, David