squirrel$$$bandit
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Looks like the new Panasonic cameras look identical to the current bunch--no innovations in form factor. I'm quite disappointed (though they do seem like excellent cameras...ISO6400, touchscreen, improved finder, etc.)...
Pickett Wilson
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You know, these cameras (not just the Pana) are being released at such a rapid pace these days that I don't think it much matters. There will be a new one announced in a few months. And lots of folks will ditch the older one and buy the newer one. I'm amazed at how fast folks are buying each version of these cameras as they come out.
The search for the holy grail of cameras has really heated up. Good for the camera makers, I guess.
The search for the holy grail of cameras has really heated up. Good for the camera makers, I guess.
Thardy
Veteran
In order for something dramatic to happen in mft (built in viewfinder) looks like a totally new camera will have to be designed. Looks like it won't happen in the G, GF, or EP line of cameras.
But then ISO 6400 is pretty exciting.
But then ISO 6400 is pretty exciting.
Paul T.
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I feel I am one of the masses who would love to see something close to the form-factor of the GF1, but with the VF built in (like, er, a Leica or Hexar AF).
But are we the masses? Do we know if the GF1 has hugely out-sold the G1?
I hear the people who really rate the G1 for its funcitonality; and those who like the look of the Samsung NX, which is the same design, slightly up-sized. But personally, a squashed SLR isn't what I'm looking for. Yet I'm wondering if my/our opinion is a mere aberration in the camera market.
But are we the masses? Do we know if the GF1 has hugely out-sold the G1?
I hear the people who really rate the G1 for its funcitonality; and those who like the look of the Samsung NX, which is the same design, slightly up-sized. But personally, a squashed SLR isn't what I'm looking for. Yet I'm wondering if my/our opinion is a mere aberration in the camera market.
Cyrus
Dr
emraphoto
Veteran
aren't we still waiting on the sensor specs?
Finder
Veteran
But what COLORS does in come in?
Thardy
Veteran
My little Canon Powershot A570 had a little viewfinder that zoomed with the lens. It was like a peephole, but it worked. And it didn't look like a mini-slr like digi compacts did when they were first introduced.
Rooster
Member
As it is now, I'm a very happy camper with my GF1 that arrived yesterday. I was worried that the G2 or G10 would make me feel at least a little jealous, but so far that's not been the case. I don't really feel that these two are that innovative, although I had hoped they would be in order to further MFT. Maybe there will be a surprise once all of the real specs are out.
Dwig
Well-known
Yes, my dreamed of GL-1. Take the Pany L-1 configuration and migrate it down to the m4/3 size. Something roughly M Leica configuration. Keep the articulated LCD but loose the faux SLR prisim bump and the grip (a removable accessory grip would be fine) so it would be sleek enough to slip in and out of pockets or small bags without have projections to snag. I don't need or want something quite as small as the GF but really need the EEVF (Eyelevel Electronic View Finder).
kuzano
Veteran
The "hump" marketing abberation is well documented...
The "hump" marketing abberation is well documented...
The dismal sales of the Olympus E300 and the Panasonic L1 certainly convinced both Olympus and Panasonic to bring back the hump on the E-400/500 and the L-10.
Some think it was the sideways mirror, but that mechanism worked well, not exhibiting any reliability problems.
It was the lack of the "hump". How long have professional cameras had the "hump"... at least since the 60's. People are conditioned to look for a "prism hump" whenever the term SLR comes into play.
Panasonic was so intimidated that the G1, GH1 and now the G2 still looks like a "real camera" with professional attributes... ie, the "hump".
Olympus waited and then pursued the e-P1, but even with the seemingly strong acceptance, we will never know how many more e-P1's may have sold with a pseudo hump.
Panasonic may have continued the pseudo hump because the new G2 is also touted as higher end and somewhat aimed at the advanced photographer market, those people who still think looking professional will make them good at capturing images.
Aberrant Marketing.... I like it. It works.
One of the things we here at RFF should learn and remember. WE ARE NOT THE MARKET FOR THESE CAMERAS. Just a small fraction of the potential and currently active buyers that are lining up.
The "hump" marketing abberation is well documented...
The dismal sales of the Olympus E300 and the Panasonic L1 certainly convinced both Olympus and Panasonic to bring back the hump on the E-400/500 and the L-10.
Some think it was the sideways mirror, but that mechanism worked well, not exhibiting any reliability problems.
It was the lack of the "hump". How long have professional cameras had the "hump"... at least since the 60's. People are conditioned to look for a "prism hump" whenever the term SLR comes into play.
Panasonic was so intimidated that the G1, GH1 and now the G2 still looks like a "real camera" with professional attributes... ie, the "hump".
Olympus waited and then pursued the e-P1, but even with the seemingly strong acceptance, we will never know how many more e-P1's may have sold with a pseudo hump.
Panasonic may have continued the pseudo hump because the new G2 is also touted as higher end and somewhat aimed at the advanced photographer market, those people who still think looking professional will make them good at capturing images.
Aberrant Marketing.... I like it. It works.
One of the things we here at RFF should learn and remember. WE ARE NOT THE MARKET FOR THESE CAMERAS. Just a small fraction of the potential and currently active buyers that are lining up.
FA Limited
missing in action
so this does not use the "improved" multi-aspect ratio sensor of the GH1?