gavinlg
Veteran
Avotius
Some guy
Me too.
Finally its here, took long enough....
Finally its here, took long enough....
$9,400 would require a lot of need to go along with that want for me.
That is the going rate for a Medium Format DSLR. Targeted for the pros who will use it to make $$$.
I do hope it is successful. It took long enough to get here.
That is the going rate for a Medium Format DSLR. Targeted for the pros who will use it to make $$$.
I do hope it is successful. It took long enough to get here.
gavinlg
Veteran
$9,400 would require a lot of need to go along with that want for me.
That is the going rate for a Medium Format DSLR. Targeted for the pros who will use it to make $$$.
I do hope it is successful. It took long enough to get here.
$9400 is a lot of money no doubt. But (pending how well it actually works) I'd spend the extra for this over a nikon d3x or canon 1ds anyday. The nearest medium format competitor comes in at something like 10K more.
totifoto
Well-known
Should have spent some more time og designing that thing, its darn ugly 
ChrisN
Striving
Ugly? No - it shows respect for its heritage.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Ah, before the S2 even gets into many people's hands, the S2 killer is born. And Pentax can make 'em faster!
Matus
Well-known
Interesting for the price. I do not care much how it looks - more important it me is how it would handle and how it performs. What would put me off a bit is the sensor size of only 33x44 what - when compared to 645 film (45x56mm) yields lens conversion factor about 1.3. Not as bad as 1.5 or 2.0, but it will impair the focal length enough for the wide lenses.
As the area is approx double (OK, a bit less) the FX the noise performance should be comparable to todays 20 - 24 Mpix DSLRs - if guys from Pentax got it right.
As the area is approx double (OK, a bit less) the FX the noise performance should be comparable to todays 20 - 24 Mpix DSLRs - if guys from Pentax got it right.
V
varjag
Guest
Wow, new Pentax record for ugly.
$9400 is a lot of money no doubt. But (pending how well it actually works) I'd spend the extra for this over a nikon d3x or canon 1ds anyday. The nearest medium format competitor comes in at something like 10K more.
Very true, but for us amateurs there is the D700, 5D and M9 (I could only wish) priced below this which will not require an investment in new lenses too.
Different style, but not much bigger, practically speaking, than a D3 or 1D Mark....
ChrisN
Striving
Where is Doug? I look forward to seeing what he, as a P645NII user, thinks.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
It is kinda homely! 
Robin Harrison
aka Harrison Cronbi
Am I missing something? Looks like half the price of the new Mamiya DM40, with the same sensor (at least spec-wise).
Also good news - the adoption of the 55mm lens as a new standard for this mid-format sensor size. Persisting with 75/80mm makes no sense with the crop.
And given the backwards compatibilty with the old 645 lenses, building an arsenal need not be too expensive. 35mm, 55mm, 120mm macro. Bosh.
Also good news - the adoption of the 55mm lens as a new standard for this mid-format sensor size. Persisting with 75/80mm makes no sense with the crop.
And given the backwards compatibilty with the old 645 lenses, building an arsenal need not be too expensive. 35mm, 55mm, 120mm macro. Bosh.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Dynamic range of 11.5 stops in a very large sensor:
http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2010/201008.html#feature
Apparently the new 55mm lens has rounded aperture blades!
http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2010/201008.html#feature
Apparently the new 55mm lens has rounded aperture blades!
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Those that are saying "ugly" likely have never used the original 645 or the previous 645N/NII - this thing looks like a Pentax. If it performs like the older 645's then it'll do just fine. One of the "big drawbacks" of the original 645's that Pentax produced was the hassle of having no real "back" but instead using cartridges. If I remember correctly, you couldn't change the cartridge mid-roll. Pentax always had the "design" for the digital 645, just looks like it took them a long time to bring it to market
Good for them
Competition is what makes all products better.
Cheers,
Dave
Good for them
Competition is what makes all products better.
Cheers,
Dave
Jamie123
Veteran
It's quite ugly indeed. I know it looks like the original 645 but that doesn't make it less ugly.
As far as functionality is concerned, however, it's pretty nice. AFAIK it's the only digital MF that has 11 point AF (as opposed to the usual single center point).
As far as functionality is concerned, however, it's pretty nice. AFAIK it's the only digital MF that has 11 point AF (as opposed to the usual single center point).
J. Borger
Well-known
No matter how the old one looked but it IS ugly.
Almost as ugly as the Mamiya/ Phase One.
Almost as ugly as the Mamiya/ Phase One.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
No matter how the old one looked but it IS ugly.
Almost as ugly as the Mamiya/ Phase One.
Yet so much less expensive. . . .
Dave
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