Pentax Full frame rumor
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aad
Not so new now.
I used to think I needed full-frame, now I'm happy with a K100D and woudn't bother with anything but Pentax if I did need it.
Frank Petronio
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My friend bought the "bargain-priced" 645D and now it's nearly worthless, not just because of normal digital camera depreciation but because, only a year after delivery, Nikon's D800 thumped its butt. For a fraction of its price.
It's not much of a bargain if they use an older, lower performance, and cheaper full-frame sensors to keep the price down. A modern APS camera and maybe even a better m4/3 will out-perform it.
It's not much of a bargain if they use an older, lower performance, and cheaper full-frame sensors to keep the price down. A modern APS camera and maybe even a better m4/3 will out-perform it.
btgc
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Pixels-wise, be it so. But some folks would again get their true 17mm, or 19m or 21mm on digital camera. Even 24mm is wider that digital 18mm kit without buying digital 11mm- zooms.
gavinlg
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I would have a 645d over any 35mm sized sensor dslr ANYDAY. Size matters more than most else.
charjohncarter
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Keith, good laugh. Thanks, Carter.
zuikologist
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Sadly true, but Pentax should be applauded for trying something different and catering to a market that needs/wants that camera. The 645D will give years of service and also a different type of output or aesthetic to a D800 - some will like it, some not. The value was always likely to plummet the moment it moved off the dealer's shelf.
I agree.... 40 big megapixels is better than 40 small megapixels. I was really intrigued by the 645D rumors before it came out, and built up a good 645NII kit. So I was ready with lenses when the 645D was introduced. Tempting, but one thing I'd found with the film kit was that I preferred the 67II over the 645NII just for the handling and ergonomics.
Unfortunately, Leica proceeded to bring out just what I wanted at twice the price. :bang:
A full-frame Pentax would need at least 24Mp I think, not sure if they'd have to match the D800 resolution assuming the price is lower. Is there a suitable chip out there?
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
They can share that slogan with Olympus :bang:
charjohncarter
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I would love a Pentax FF digital (preferably a mirrorless)(and will probably buy one either style), but I read that the difference in IQ between a APS-C and a FF is really insignificantly small. The real difference comes when you go from APS-C or FF to MF digital. I don't know if this is right I just read it. But it was a sensible argument. I.E. as digital bodies are like cars, and therefore obsolete in a few months or they fail, so why spent the money on a FF.
ChrisN
Striving
I'd love to play with the RAW files from a MF digital camera. I can state that for me there is a big difference between the RAW files from the Pentax K5 (which I've had since they first arrived) and the M9 RAW files (which I've been working with for 14 months). For me the difference is akin to the difference between working with a 35mm negative and a 6x9 negative of the same scene. The M9 files are richer and allow a greater range of adjustments to the image, as well as having better resolution.
Would I buy a FF Pentax? I've upgraded every couple of models starting with the *istDS, and still have a K10, K20 and K5 on hand (albeit shared with the family). I've got a bag full of good Pentax lenses, including the FF Limited models. I think it would be pretty difficult to resist the temptation, especially if it came in at under $1500. Inquiring minds ...
But sadly I don't think it is ever going to happen.
Addy101
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You read wrong. There is a real difference between the IQ of APS-C and the IQ of FF. If this difference is important to your photographic style is something completely different. To me, it is important. I never realised this, but when I did a wedding using both my (ageing) Sony A900 and (much newer) Sony Nex F3, the difference became obvious to me. I was considering the Nex 6 or Nex 7 before, but I decided against it after seeing a comparison between the Sony a77 and A900. I like FF 😎
Sejanus.Aelianus
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Me too. There is a clear difference. in my opinion.
charjohncarter
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Thanks for the input, even though I rarely use digital I would buy a FF Pentax, based on your recommendations.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
John,
I agree that IQ out of cameras with the same size sensor is a moot point when it comes to today's offerings. But I still see the difference *in certain types* of image between FF vs smaller sensors.
charjohncarter
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I can see a difference between TriX and Tmax400, but lots can't. So maybe it is just us. I hope FF is possible with Pentax, like I said I'll buy one if it happens. But I'm not going to go for a MF sized camera just to have FF. I read on the Pentax Forum that they may use the K10-K20 body for the FF which is fine with me. But no monsters in my future. Unless:
By the way, this is one of the articles I read. I am a big believer in the bigger the format the better. So, for me, if I were going to buy a digital FF camera other than a Pentax FF (new lenses etc), I would get a MF digital. I mean why waste money on something that isn't a great difference.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/40349216
giellaleafapmu
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Did people posting here actually ever had a recent digital Pentax? If anything it seems to me they outperform Nikon's and Canon's similar products at a fraction of the price on most respects, I have no way to know if they are actually really releasing a FF camera but if they do I'd rather first have a test and then say anything because as I see it now even the K-01 produces better files (albeit a bit slowly) than anything with similar sensor from Nikon or Canon that I have seen. Sure if what matters is the 50something AF points, 10,000 hidden functions and a Zirilion Megapixels maybe others have the edge but for a small, sturdy camera at reasonable price producing great files I'd rather go with them, I don't see why it shouldn't be that way with a FF, it's a bit Pentax makes cameras...
GLF
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charjohncarter
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My opinion: all digitals are pretty much the same. Internal software and all the junk that you eluded to do make a difference to the user that doesn't use the camera except as a P&S. But I have yet to see a difference in files that are RAW and processed by me. So, to me, buy what best suits you and forget about the marketing departments.
Range-rover
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I can agree with that, the sensors are all the same except for
the Fuji's and all the stuff in the cameras make the difference,
but I got to say, I like the color's of my Pentax and Olympus Pen.
Range
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