iml
Well-known
Ricoh GR and/or Olympus 35 RC.
Ian
Ian
5:00 PM
It's a light machine
Swivel-screen digitals can be used just like a TLR and they are microscopic by comparision. Give it a try unless you absolutely want film.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I want film.
I want the uncertainty of not working with a viewfinder (electronic or otherwise).
I'm a bit concerned at the perception of walking around with a digital camera and swivel viewfinder at low angles.
I want the uncertainty of not working with a viewfinder (electronic or otherwise).
I'm a bit concerned at the perception of walking around with a digital camera and swivel viewfinder at low angles.
nightfly
Well-known
Any camera, really.
The key is getting used to seeing with a certain focal length. You just envision that slid down a few feet.
Stealth is pretty over rated. Most people aren't paying attention to you, unless you give off a creepy vibe which you tend to do when you're being "stealthy".
The prefect hipshot camera is the one in your hand that you are confident enough using that bringing it to your eye is superfluous.
The key is getting used to seeing with a certain focal length. You just envision that slid down a few feet.
Stealth is pretty over rated. Most people aren't paying attention to you, unless you give off a creepy vibe which you tend to do when you're being "stealthy".
The prefect hipshot camera is the one in your hand that you are confident enough using that bringing it to your eye is superfluous.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
5:00 PM said:Swivel-screen digitals can be used just like a TLR and they are microscopic by comparision. Give it a try unless you absolutely want film.
HERETIC!!
no really
you were looking for the PERFECT one
there is no perfect thing of course
but a tlr is the closest
size limiting you, well that's pretty bad then, because...tlr's are really good for hip shooting.
The problem with very wide 35mm is, that, aside of the occasional goofy but interesting perspective result, the main subject will be represented by a very small amount of grains on the film... Try to magnify it and you lose the details...
Not much better with digital wides...
Unless you go REALLY close to the subject of course but that kinda kills the advantage of the hip shooting, i suppose.
5:00 PM
It's a light machine
dazedgonebye said:I want film.
I want the uncertainty of not working with a viewfinder (electronic or otherwise).
I'm a bit concerned at the perception of walking around with a digital camera and swivel viewfinder at low angles.
Film: Great. End of discussion. Note my avatar as to the place of film in my heart. :angel:
Perception: There is none. It's an invisible camera...people have no idea what I'm doing; some probably think I'm text messaging or checking e-mail!
dreilly
Chillin' in Geneva
Just wanted to note that the Sony R1 is a lot like a TLR. Not small or discrete, and not film, I know, but for those of you looking for the TLR (or hassy) feel in a digital should give it a look. I love using the top-mounted LCD. Now it's my favorite digital. And silent as can be.
DougK
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I would have answered "Olympus Trip 35" until I reread the focal length specification. Very quick scale focusing, extremely quiet shutter but alas, a 40mm lens.
shutterfiend
cheap and lazy
Pherdinand said:sorry but a perfect hip shot camera is a TLR. Full stop.
This is a fact, not just my oppinion.![]()
Know nothing about it beforehand I bought myself a Bolsey C22. It's a great concept. 35mm TLR. You can see what you're snapping and drop the film off at the nearest 1-hour lab when you're done. And it's tiny!!! I'm not sure if it'll work though. It's real old and the slow shutter speeds aren't working.
On a different note, I wonder if there are any clip-on hip level finders. Flip-screen tilted up sounds too conspicuous especially in low light.
shutterfiend
cheap and lazy
I'm sorry I should probably have read the post from the top. The camera you're looking for is Yashica Electro 35 CC. In addition to all the advantages the XA has to offer it has a faster lens (1.8/35mm) and zone/hyper focus assistance. It's not much bigger either. I do wish there was a hip-level finder for it.
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shutterfiend
cheap and lazy
ccs
Member
What about a Yashica T2 with the waist level finder on the top, a 38 2.8 zeiss or was it a 35 2.8? It's splash proof too.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
shutterfiend said:
That's a pretty cool little finder. Just one on the auction site at the moment and it's $80! Ouch.
You may be right about the Yashica CC as well. I wish the shutter would go to 1/500th though.
migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
I use two different type of camera for Hip.
Nikon S with a CV 21 and 400 ISO or
Finepix F11 at 400/800/1600 (olny the lens goes out between fingers)
Nikon S with a CV 21 and 400 ISO or
Finepix F11 at 400/800/1600 (olny the lens goes out between fingers)
shutterfiend
cheap and lazy
dazedgonebye said:That's a pretty cool little finder. Just one on the auction site at the moment and it's $80! Ouch.
You may be right about the Yashica CC as well. I wish the shutter would go to 1/500th though.
You're right. Top speed 250 is a bit of a pain. Max ASA 500 is another.
Which auction site did you see the finder on? Ebay?
Abbazz
6x9 and be there!
dazedgonebye said:That's a pretty cool little finder. Just one on the auction site at the moment and it's $80! Ouch.
The one on eBay from Cambridge Camera is a waist-level finder for an Icarex 35mm reflex camera. The Icarex has an interchangeable finder and the waist-level finder is a replacement for the standard pentaprism. It is not usable on a rangefinder camera.
Cheers,
Abbazz
dazedgonebye
Veteran
shutterfiend said:You're right. Top speed 250 is a bit of a pain. Max ASA 500 is another.
Which auction site did you see the finder on? Ebay?
The finder was on ebay.
1/250 bothers me because I usually run 400 ISO film and I'm afraid I'll have a hard time in daylight use. I guess I could get in the habit of mounting a ND filter...
Does anyone know the Contax Tvs camera?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=110109112342&rd=1&rd=1
ccs
Member
I bought one when they first came out and it was a disappointment for me. If I remember right it was slow to start up and the zoom was pretty slow to respond. It could be that I had a lemon, because the first thing I noticed, when I took it out of the box, was that it had what looked like a chile dog thumb print right on the topdazedgonebye said:The finder was on ebay.
1/250 bothers me because I usually run 400 ISO film and I'm afraid I'll have a hard time in daylight use. I guess I could get in the habit of mounting a ND filter...
Does anyone know the Contax Tvs camera?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=110109112342&rd=1&rd=1
dazedgonebye
Veteran
ccs said:I bought one when they first came out and it was a disappointment for me. If I remember right it was slow to start up and the zoom was pretty slow to respond. It could be that I had a lemon, because the first thing I noticed, when I took it out of the box, was that it had what looked like a chile dog thumb print right on the top, as if who ever packed it was eating their lunch at the time. I ended up sending it back.
I don't mind the slow zoom, since I'd want it on the wide end most of the time.
Slow start up is not good though...
I kinda like chili-dogs
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