gnuyork
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Peta Pixel article on film.
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pyeh
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Tunalegs, you and I must live in parallel worlds.
tunalegs
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Yes, but that is an ad, it's not counted as a result, and thus wouldn't be included in the top ten films. Both of Fuji's signature films were omitted from from the survey, but the author then writes about the results of the survey as though nobody likes Fujifilm.
Each survey, B&W or color, is split into three groups: slow, medium, and fast films. Each group has only four possible results (which I pointed out earlier) meaning plenty of films were omitted, some in favor of films most people wouldn't consider/use. The ads which appear next to the results aren't counted.
film nut
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So this developer and "former Photographer"wants to be able to use his old film cameras for digital images. The cost of this sensor unit is almost as much as a decent digital camera; if you want digital, buy a digital camera and if you want to use your great old film cameras I would just buy film. The images won't be anything special, digital images are digital images; they won't be the same as film.
Mike
mich rassena
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I certainly like the idea, especially winding to prime the next shot, but it will be a very long time before full frame digital is compact and cheap enough to make that happen. Unfortunately, there's no money in the idea, but it would be great as a novelty.
HHPhoto
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Exactly.
This guy has very very little knowledge about film. The way this 'survey' is designed lead to completely wrong conclusions, and has nothing to do at all with proper statistics.
If you ask the manufacturers about their best selling films you would get different answers: For example that in the US alone about 9 million single use cameras are sold. Loaded with Fujifilm Superia 400 or Kodak Ultramax 400.
Does Kodak sell 9 million Portras? No!
Does Kodak sell 9 million Ektars? No!
But Fujifilm is selling millions of its C200 for example. Fujifilm UK just some months ago said that this is their best selling film in the UK. Not Pro 400H, which is in this list, by the way.
So this article is just
- click bait
- the usual Kodak and LOMO Marketing (both are working together by the way, most LOMO colour films are currently made from Kodak masterrolls with cheap finishing in China)
- another superficial article of a 'film-hipster' generating attention for his website.
Not helpful at all.
Sad that Petapixel is sharing such low-quality articles.
Cheers, Jan
HHPhoto
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Really, you should not believe every impertinent marketing lie.
Yes, the Lomo guys are telling everyone that "they saved film".
But that has absolutely nothing to do with reality!
Lomo had their peak in demand in 2011 / 2012. At that time they sold about 2 million films p.a.
But the whole global market at that time was about 250 millions films! So even in their strongest time they were only a tiny niche supplier compared to the whole market.
And since then they have significantly shrunk: Most of their shops have been closed, lots of employees were laid off. They have only survived because they focussed on two new business fields.
- Fuji Instax
- "art" lenses for mainly digital shooters.
Lomo did a big mistake in the way they have promoted film: To their audience they have said "film = lomography".
So most beginners thought the crappy results they have got with lomography are typical for film (which is of course nonsense).
The beginners were disappointed with the results and have never touched film again. They are lost for the film scene.
So in the end Lomography did more damage to the film market than benefits. The "net effect" is negative.
There is a reason why the film revival of the last 2-3 years and the shrinking of Lomography in this period are two sides of the same medal.....
Cheers, Jan
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