ricnak
Well-known
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162663202/the-petzvar-f-38-120-mm-medium-format-petzval-port
He is almost over the line!
He is almost over the line!
pordiosero
Member
I will never buy any "Lomography" branded thing.
Michael Markey
Veteran
I will never buy any "Lomography" branded thing.
Any reason ... just curious.
pordiosero
Member
Any reason ... just curious.
Overpriced toys? I mean, I don't see any reason for buying the type of things they sell, and if i wanted something of the kind, I guess that there are much cheaper options.
Plus I never understood that hype for retro cameras... from that specific brand. The people I know who were interested in this "lomography" thing found it unique, so special... but were never interested in any other retro cameras. Why? Is that good the marketing done by Lomo? i know that you guys from the forum have wider interests though.
Overpriced toys? I mean, I don't see any reason for buying the type of things they sell, and if i wanted something of the kind, I guess that there are much cheaper options.
Plus I never understood that hype for retro cameras... from that specific brand. The people I know who were interested in this "lomography" thing found it unique, so special... but were never interested in any other retro cameras. Why? Is that good the marketing done by Lomo? i know that you guys from the forum have wider interests though.
Lomography has done an incredible job of promoting film photography world wide. Because of Lomography, hundreds of thousands of photographers (or more) are out there shooting FILM ! Lomography not only found a niche, for all practical purposes they invented a niche that many camera manufacturers had given up on.
I have respect and admiration for their innovation, dedication to FILM, and their great success. Your lack of understanding is frankly your own limitation, not Lomography's. Lomographers are out having FUN taking FILM pictures. It seems to me what they are doing is good for film and good for photography in general.
Best,
Stephen
pordiosero
Member
Yeah, I agree 90% with what you say. But... that doesn't make what I said any bit less true. I was asked about the reasons why I wouldn't ever buy their stuff, and I think thst I gave a fair response: Lomography doesn't bring anything to me. I rather take any of the "bargains" that are sold on eBay and play with them. If I want the pictures to look greenish or blueish I don't need "Lomography" for making X-process, if you know what I mean (lots of people associated that looking to Lomography and thought that they had to buy a Lomo-product to achieve those colors).Lomography has done an incredible job of promoting film photography world wide. Because of Lomography, hundreds of thousands of photographers (or more) are out there shooting FILM ! Lomography not only found a niche, for all practical purposes they invented a niche that many camera manufacturers had given up on.
I have respect and admiration for their innovation, dedication to FILM, and their great success. Your lack of understanding is frankly your own limitation, not Lomography's. Lomographers are out having FUN taking FILM pictures. It seems to me what they are doing is good for film and good for photography in general.
Best,
Stephen
And I also added that I can't grasp why these Lomosellers are doing so well, and I venture to guess that it's due to a super good marketing.
Correct me if I said something off.
Michael Markey
Veteran
I`ve never used the products myself but it would seem that they appeal to a wide cross section of photographers including professionals like Dave Burnett.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnL24q11oEU (1.28)
Overall got to be a good thing .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnL24q11oEU (1.28)
Overall got to be a good thing .
robert blu
quiet photographer
The Petzval Lens in Nikon and Canon mount was shown at the recent photokina.
Did anyone tried it? On a film camera or a DSLR? Just curious to know what the real experience is.
robert
Did anyone tried it? On a film camera or a DSLR? Just curious to know what the real experience is.
robert
x-ray
Veteran
Most of the target consumers for this stuff has never seen a real Petzval lens. It looks weird and exotic to them.
Most people don't even know what a Petzval is. I use vintage Perzvals for my collodion work. Click the link at the bottom and see the results of a couple. The portrait of the lady, my lovely wife, was shot with an 1860's Darlot 13" and the gentleman with the derby with a 10" #2 Ajax. Both produce beautiful images. Unlike rapid rectilinear and modern lenses the Petzval had an extremely curved field of focus. I tell people it was shaped like a bowl.
Not having hand so with the new lens I have reservations about it's look.
AJShepherd
Well-known
Back when I had an Olympus EP1 I had a 25mm f1.4 CCTV c-mount lens on an adaptor (total cost < £50) which also gave a massive 'swirly bokeh' effect when used wide open.
I know some people who find it impossible to look at pictures with that kind of effect as it makes them feel unwell.
I know some people who find it impossible to look at pictures with that kind of effect as it makes them feel unwell.
x-ray
Veteran
A Petzval won't necessarily swirl. They usually swirl when used on a format larger than what they were designed to cover.
Half Plate ambrotype with an Ajax #2
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/showphoto.php?photoid=213951
8x10 ambrotype with a 13" Darlot F4
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/showphoto.php?photoid=209241
Half Plate ambrotype with an Ajax #2
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/showphoto.php?photoid=213951
8x10 ambrotype with a 13" Darlot F4
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/showphoto.php?photoid=209241
x-ray
Veteran
robert blu
quiet photographer
Thanks x-ray for your comments and for pointing to your ambrotype. I admit to be among the ones who don't know what a real Petzval is and because of this I'm looking for more informations. And because I cannot have access to a LF camera I?m asking myself if this new version could give satisfying (and of course not comparable to a LF photo) results on a 35mm camera, in my case a Nikon FM2. Thanks again
robert
robert
segedi
RFicianado
Robert,
Have a look at Denys' Kickstarter campaign and make sure to scroll down the page. You'll see his lens' effect on medium format and full-frame 35mm digital. It provides enough of the effect that I became a backer - that and it looks and operates like a modern lens. Still waiting for the lens, but production seems to be reaching final stages.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162663202/the-petzvar-f-38-120-mm-medium-format-petzval-port
Have a look at Denys' Kickstarter campaign and make sure to scroll down the page. You'll see his lens' effect on medium format and full-frame 35mm digital. It provides enough of the effect that I became a backer - that and it looks and operates like a modern lens. Still waiting for the lens, but production seems to be reaching final stages.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162663202/the-petzvar-f-38-120-mm-medium-format-petzval-port
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