Photographer Killed at SF’s Twin Peaks in Camera Robbery

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FrozenInTime said:
After six years in California, I'm looking forward to returning to Britain.
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Agree. The certain propositions passed recently by the voters allowed the State to reduce the sentences to convicted felons, which allowed them to go out on the streets. Crime in CA is going up much faster than the national average.
 
pepeguitarra said:
Agree. The certain propositions passed recently by the voters allowed the State to reduce the sentences to convicted felons, which allowed them to go out on the streets. Crime in CA is going up much faster than the national average.
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MS13 has a big presence in both San Francisco and Los Angeles. Police in both those cities are out gunned by them. But, I doubt they are stealing cameras. They mostly sell drugs, weapons (including some high power stuff) and traffic in women.

They are notorious for a flow of money into city governments to avoid stiff penalties by law enforcement when caught and convicted.
 
Regarding being robbed, people always say "no camera is worth dying for."

But living in the SF bay area IS worth dying for?? :rolleyes:
 
Fran Sanfrisco has sadly become the fair weather refuge of America's flotsam & jetsam, with the indifferent connivance of its elected officials.

Travelers beware.
 
Well none of that sounds anything like one of my favourite cities to spend time in and shoot on the street in to me.

There isn't anywhere in the city that I'd specifically avoid, ok there's some interesting housing projects, but you're unlikely to be going near them anyway.

Admittedly I don't spend that much time in the tourist downtown part, the Tenderloin is next door and is far more interesting. I'm happy wandering round with camera in the Tenderloin, working my way up through The Mission, or out in Excelsior or Hunter's Point, and I've never had an issue.

Never had a problem over in the East Bay either, I just don't recognise this fear filled version of The City or The Town at all.
 
Attended school in San Francisco for the military. Never had a problem. But I didn't have expensive camera gear either. It was so long ago the wineries I'd go to had samples for me for free. Used to eat grapes at Mondovi. Traveled around with my red VW bug.

Over in S.E. Asia I was in some pretty scrounge cities and never felt I was being examined for theft. In one place a fellow soldier turned 21 and, walking over a bridge to get to the city, crossed a river. Threw him in and coming back up, he hit this object, a dead dog. Ya, are we having fun!

At any rate, too bad for the event in San Francisco.
 
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This is based on my own research when using the FBI data from UCR. I presented a talk on it in Boston this year. Note that rape and murder rates did not change much. "Violent Crimes" covers murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.


Here are the significant violent crimes clusters in 4 dimensions. For example, a red cluster is a cluster for rape & murder & aggravated assault & robbery.
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Data set ends in 2012...is that correct sir? Any follow up for after 2012? Also those clusters appear to be major population centers (except for four corners maybe). Where there are no clusters...not so much population I would think. Also what is the ratio of reported crimes to population on county by county basis? Was that also included in the research?
 
I remember back in the day when SF was so beautiful...nowadays..my brother says up north.. the Bulgarians are taking over the pot industry..and a lot of bad stuff is going down up there..
 
Thanks for the data Raid. Even though it is 5 years old, looking at it still shows San Fran/Bay area to be a center for crime. It's solid red. Who knew LA is much safer?
 
Contarama said:
Data set ends in 2012...is that correct sir? Any follow up for after 2012? Also those clusters appear to be major population centers (except for four corners maybe). Where there are no clusters...not so much population I would think. Also what is the ratio of reported crimes to population on county by county basis? Was that also included in the research?
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The FBI detailed data for public downloading ends at 2012. I need complete data at the county level. The rates are analyzed, so the population is taken into account. The red clusters are not in cities only. Check the map again.
 
Huss said:
Thanks for the data Raid. Even though it is 5 years old, looking at it still shows San Fran/Bay area to be a center for crime. It's solid red. Who knew LA is much safer?
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The FBI has data at the US level (not for each county) for later years.
 
After seeing a decrease in crimes rate for many years, the rates started to increase according to the FBI:


Ref: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....fenses-known-to-law-enforcement/violent-crime

Overview (Violent Crimes)
In 2015, an estimated 1,197,704 violent crimes occurred nationwide, an increase*of 3.9 percent from the 2014 estimate. (See Tables*1*and*1A.)

Overview* (Murder)
In 2015, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 15,696. This was a 10.8 percent increase from the 2014 estimate, a 7.1 percent increase from the 2011 figure, but a 9.3 percent drop from the number in 2006. (See Tables*1*and*1A.)

Overview*(Rape)
There were an estimated 90,185 rapes (legacy definition) reported to law enforcement in 2015. This estimate was 6.3 percent higher than the 2014 estimate, 7.1 percent higher than the 2011 estimate, but 4.5 percent lower than the 2006 estimate. (See Tables*1*and1A.)*

Overview*(Robbery)
There were an estimated 327,374 robberies nationwide in 2015. The estimated number of robberies increased 1.4 percent from the 2014 estimate, but decreased 7.7 percent from the 2011 estimate. The 2015 estimate was down 27.1 percent from the 2006 estimate. (See Tables*1*and*1A.)

Overview* (Aggravated Assault)
In 2015, there were an estimated 764,449 aggravated assaults in the nation. The estimated number of aggravated assaults increased 4.6 percent when compared with the 2014 estimate, but decreased 12.5 percent when compared with the 2006 estimate. (See Tables*1*and*1A.)
 
raid said:
The FBI detailed data for public downloading ends at 2012. I need complete data at the county level. The rates are analyzed, so the population is taken into account. The red clusters are not in cities only. Check the map again.
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So like many bureaucratic reports it doesnt tell the complete story...:rolleyes:
 
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