Photographer Killed at SF’s Twin Peaks in Camera Robbery

Not really. It takes several years of data collecting from all states to get the complete data sets. Some counties don't submit data. Period.
 
Contarama said:
So like many bureaucratic reports it doesnt tell the complete story...:rolleyes:
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Our study studied the roles of poverty, race, age, and other factors that are associated with county level rates for violent crimes. It is in the end an issue of socioeconomic status and associated violent crimes. Others have shown that the centers for murder, say, have not changed much geographically in the past 30 years.
 
Huss said:
Thanks for the data Raid. Even though it is 5 years old, looking at it still shows San Fran/Bay area to be a center for crime. It's solid red. Who knew LA is much safer?
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Nobody's on foot in LA, that takes a whole bunch of potential crimes out of the equation I'd imagine.
 
jsrockit said:
Yeah, it never is a problem... until it happens to you.
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The point I was making is that I've spent a significant amount of time there, and these fearful tales of the city bear no resemblance to what I see in some of the more characterful areas.

Does that mean it'll never happen to me? no, but it does mean I can speak on my experience of having walked those streets.
 
I would not panic, but if needed, I would be careful where I walk and what I do. Being within a group of friends should help.
 
Our study studied the roles of poverty, race, age, and other factors that are associated with county level rates for violent crimes. It is in the end an issue of socioeconomic status and associated violent crimes. Others have shown that the centers for murder, say, have not changed much geographically in the past 30 years.
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How much is determined by the values each person subscribes to to determine the outcome of various situations?

I grew up with out very much material wise but I didn't think of resorting to criminal activities to improve my lot. My wife the same even more so poverty wise but through hard work, getting an education made a good life for my family.

At any rate, I'll close for now.
 
Nobody's on foot in LA, that takes a whole bunch of potential crimes out of the equation I'd imagine.
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There are a lot of people on foot in Los Angeles. I lived in Long Beach and did a bunch of foot walking along with others.

My daughter and her family currently live in L.A. (La Canada) and we all will go to Griffith Park where people are walking. She works in Santa Monica and I see a lot of people walking there. When they lived in Park LaBrea we walked most everywhere, even groceries, the Grove.

At any rate......

Do you live in L.A.?
 
Bill Clark said:
How much is determined by the values each person subscribes to to determine the outcome of various situations?

I grew up with out very much material wise but I didn't think of resorting to criminal activities to improve my lot. My wife the same even more so poverty wise but through hard work, getting an education made a good life for my family.

At any rate, I'll close for now.
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My study is based on counties and not based on individuals. Of course, people vary from each other.
 
Bill Clark said:
There are a lot of people on foot in Los Angeles. I lived in Long Beach and did a bunch of foot walking along with others.

My daughter and her family currently live in L.A. (La Canada) and we all will go to Griffith Park where people are walking. She works in Santa Monica and I see a lot of people walking there. When they lived in Park LaBrea we walked most everywhere, even groceries, the Grove.
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I tend to think he was being sarcastic. Like they say in the song: "Nobody walks in L.A."
 
You will not find Florida publicizing high crime rates. Everything seems to rotate around tourism or real estate.
 
Contarama said:
That article makes me wonder if the kids are somewhat copycatting the other robberies...eg the big boys are doing it and getting away with it so lets hit a few marks ourselves.
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I have no statistics backing my guess but, I think the random crimes against tourists are just that, pigeons and hawks. The high end camera crimes seem well organized with buyers likely putting out "wants" for a category of hardware. Auto thieves often operate on a want list of prices paid per listed item. I'll bet these thieves know the difference between an inexpensive amateur camera and something a pro would use, and owned by a tourist.

A Red Camera, mentioned in another thread I posted, would be impossible to get serviced with recorded serial numbers. These cameras are being used by the buyers.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162069



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raid said:
This is correct. The FBI refers to their data as "reported crimes".
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LAPD has been faking their crime stats for a while now, to make it look like they are doing a better job than they actually are:

http://www.latimes.com/local/cityhall/la-me-crime-stats-20151015-story.html

Of course these 'good results' affected bonuses/pay raises etc. In a regular job you'd get fired for doing that...

As for San Fran, when I was there over the July 4 w/e the local TV stations reported that crimes of opportunity against tourists were out of control with the police overwhelmed. The vast majority of these were property thefts in the typical tourist trap areas (Lombard St, Fisherman's Wharf, North Beach etc)
 
I used to live in a houseboat in Sausalito back in the 70's...
I wonder what its like today..
Just across the bay from SF..tourist area too..
 
Huss said:
LAPD has been faking their crime stats for a while now, to make it look like they are doing a better job than they actually are:

http://www.latimes.com/local/cityhall/la-me-crime-stats-20151015-story.html

Of course these 'good results' affected bonuses/pay raises etc. In a regular job you'd get fired for doing that...

As for San Fran, when I was there over the July 4 w/e the local TV stations reported that crimes of opportunity against tourists were out of control with the police overwhelmed. The vast majority of these were property thefts in the typical tourist trap areas (Lombard St, Fisherman's Wharf, North Beach etc)
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They also have data on arrest counts, which reflect law enforcement actions. There usually is a big difference between "reported" and "arrests". It is a fact that the police profiles neighborhoods which they often police.
 
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