Photographer or gear-head

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Someone commented that RFF is becoming more oriented towards photo gear collecting than to photography, but as one of the main culprits (I suppose) I disagree. The deeper you get into photography, the more finicky/fine-tuned/informed your tastes/wants become. I'm searching for vintage looking results, not caring for the modern clinical look of today's lenses, hence these acquisitions of older lenses. As for camera bodies, I slowly gravitated towards classic gear as well, appreciating the heft and feel. When I was just starting out in RF photography, all I knew was Canon GIIIQL.
 
FrankS said:
I'm searching for vintage looking results, not caring for the modern clinical look of today's lenses
Ditto. I've been collecting old glass to use. And as I've picked up more old lenses my new, sharper, more highly corrected etc. lenses are getting a lot less camera time.

Peter
 
What Rover said. I have lots of cameras (even a couple of digitals), and like to use them on an occasional basis. The film SLRs have been gathering a lot of dust recently, but the Canon and Contax rangefinders get used regularly, about one roll a week. My recent gear acquisition has been focused on gathering lenses that are either different from (Canon 50/1.5) or improvements upon, lenses I already have and use (Canon 35/2 in place of Canon 35/3.5).

I have been shooting a lot lately, and will probably load up the Contax S and Canon 7sZ soon. Just got the Canon back from DAG, and am looking forward to using it with the 35/2.
 
I love this forum for the fact that you can talk about both Photography and the Gear. And that there are so many knowledgeable people here who will help you with both sides.
 
lubitel said:
I love this forum for the fact that you can talk about both Photography and the Gear. And that there are so many knowledgeable people here who will help you with both sides.

I agree. I don't understand the need to classify people as being one or the other, that has plagued other forums. I hope it doesn't happen here. Frankly, it's just tiresome.
 
lubitel said:
I love this forum for the fact that you can talk about both Photography and the Gear. And that there are so many knowledgeable people here who will help you with both sides.

Agreed! Even though I don't think of myself as a gearhead, I do find the discussions on things like the Leicas, the Bessas, and the FSU cameras most interesting to listen in on.

The people here appear to be most genuinely knowledgeable and not BS artists like you find much too often.
 
I've gone in and out of various gear over the years - not just wrt rangefinders - Why though?

A couple reasons:
1) Without actually using the gear and putting it through its paces will I truly know if the particular body/lens is right for what I want to shoot. Sure, I can go into a local retailer and hold the camera, see if it feels right etc. but holding the camera vs actually running film (or in the case of digital viewing files) through it are two different beasts. It takes time to get to know the nuances of a camera and that usually takes me about 2-3 rolls (or about 100 shots) - once I find what suits me, I usually stick with it - my EOS-3 has been in my arsenal for the past 3 years now and I have no intention of letting it go 😀 The beauty about most gear is that if you take care of it and it's not abused you can usually get back a decent return for your initial investment. Even more so if you buy high end gear on the used market.

2) Different tools for different jobs 🙂 I've got a LOT of gear - but as I've said before, there's reason to my madness 😀 My D/SLRs are used for weddings/portraits. The M's that I have will be what I carry with me for travel (because they're SO light compared to an SLR kit). The Blad is, well, underused, but I will retain it because it's a blad and would be great for classic portraiture.

3) Aesthetics. The "old" cameras (Pentax K1000, Blad, Leica M's) have a certain aesthetic appeal imho. So, I have, in my mind, to one day display them in my living room in a nice glass case. In today's "throw away" digital world (hey, Canon releases a new DSLR body each 12 months minimum!!) it's hard to come by some items that not only "look nice" but are also functional. After all, if we don't keep these things and use them I'd hate to imagine them ending up in a trash heap somewhere 😀

Dave
 
I suppose one could put everything in perspective with a "gearhead index" using this formula:

number of cameras owned / number of rolls of film consumed annually = Gearhead Index

Actually, digital cameras are the reason why I have a gearhead index between 3 and 6. Twenty years ago, when I was using just a Miranda and a Minolta Autocord, my gearhead index was under .10.

Is a Gearhead Index of 100 a major problem? Perhaps you have to consider other variables, such as Gross Income and attitude of Significant Other. 😛 😕



R.J.

Mathematicians, correct me if this formula is BS. 😕
 
Frank,

Gear head ? Hmm, this euphemism was invented by some of those who are concerned I suppose !!! 😀 😀

actuallly "THE gear head " does not exist IMO, as always in real life each category contains sub-categories, some negative and annoying, some quite the opposite.

The possession of a bunch of equipment does say NOTHING about a person, excepted that he had the money to buy it.

Decisive questions however are WHY did he buy the stuff and what does he DO with that stuff ??

There are some who own a bunch different (!) cameras and use them all, each for it's purpose or for the special results it produces. As Frank or Manolo have said above. I know others who own much more stuff but use still it all, and they achiev e wonderful results which prove they are very good photogs, no matter what loads of glass and cameras they own.

All the rest was meant when I said "euphemism" !! 😀

Some are collectors only, they are harmless and mostly friendly folks who earn our
sympathy,because the suffer from an uncontrollable addiction, which will ruin them sooner or later . These folks are happy with the possesion of their gems, keep their mouth shut and don't bother anybody. Salvete Morituri ! 😀 😀

Then there are collectors who find it embarrassing to suffer from such a kind of addiction and therefore they pick a camera from the shelf sometimes , go out and burn a roll of film, but keeping both eyes closed while pressing the shutter, because they are not interested at all in the reality which is to be seen in the finder.
To some of them sometimes happen funny things, I know one who bought a CV Heliar 3.5/50 just because he meant Iit would be nice to have it, and when he went out for shooting he left the lens collapsed and complained later at the top of the voice what fuzzy pics this lens produces. 😀 True story !

And exactly there is the limit where the annoying part begins. That's when collectors and fondlers begin to state they are photogs, present their care- and thoughtlessly taken photos to the public and bother others with technical and artistical pseudo knowledge read in manuals books catalogs or funny websites put up especially for folks like them .

Worse is if they begin to take part at artistical discussions and want to critizise other (real) photogs photos, seldom funny, mostly annoying.
Worst however is when status shall play a roll too, if people buy photo stuff to replace bad or no sex with expensive gear or to support their image of a rich and well established person for their largely virtual existence on photo sites in the web.

Unfortunately the very much money one can spend on gear attracts a lot of those who mix it all up, and the most expensive makes among the expensive ones attract the very most sick people.
This kind of people are a true PIA and often enuff I was at a point where I said it's enuff now, I quit at all forums, over and out.
I did not do it because I learned in time not to take part a a certain part of the community life of several forums, taking the good stuff only.

To answer finally the question now:
Yes, most of the threads deal with gear, so what ? This is a place for technical discussions and information interchange too. Ti makes the forum beein a wothful platform, for Rf shooters almost a portal, and If the platform is not abused by some the special birds I mentioned above technics are btw a less dangerous issue than the mine fields of artistical or philosophical discussions

But no, I don't believe that the Porsche - and Rolex- Lomographists have hijacked RFF yet, not at all.
Best proof for me is the book project, a wild bunch of 105 photogs will contribute with their work , much more wanted to take part but came to late. I don' think this could happen in a "gear-head" forum ? Neither the idea nor the response to it. 🙂

Regards,
Bertram
 
Just kidding, of course (But I'm not enough of one myself to know how to use the little smiley face things).

Or, I'm just cranky because I don't have more free time to spend doing this. I mean to be out shooting more.

Gary
 
I think the comment was right. RFF IS mostly about the gear and what's possible with it or what not; threads on gear-free subjects (and still photo related, thus the recipe-thread not included!) are rare.
Even in your first post here, you talk mostly about gear, Frank🙂
Not that I mind! It's good to talk about cameras and show off/admire the gear we have. But there could be more image and imaging philosophy-related topics. I am guilty myself for not starting such threads.
 
Hey, Frank! I appreciate all attempts to rationalize my full-blown GAS, but let's come up with something that's a little more soothing to the wife next time, please 😉
 
lubitel said:
I love this forum for the fact that you can talk about both Photography and the Gear. And that there are so many knowledgeable people here who will help you with both sides.

There's nothing I hate more than, "it's the photographer not the equipment" snobby answers I've gotten in the past. Here it's all cool, we can talk about both photography and the gear 🙂 The gear is part of the photographic experience, afterall. Same thing can be said of watches (I know there are people who like various wrist, pocket, clocks, etc), knives, guns, cooking utensils, even surf boards (my personal fav).

Speaking of which, I should go see if they have that 50 pound 14 ft piece of wood (aka THE PIER) ready for me yet 😀 It's all about vintage surfing 😀
 
schmoozit said:
Hey, Frank! I appreciate all attempts to rationalize my full-blown GAS, but let's come up with something that's a little more soothing to the wife next time, please 😉

Schmoozit, if I had the answer to that problem, I'd be a much happier man!
 
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