noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
The Amish who frequent our local farmer's market on Saturdays are more than happy to take "heathen dollars" from we "heathen sinners" who they expect will burn in hell.
I have photographed the Amish at this market quite a bit. My modus operandi is to hide in plain sight to get true candid street photographs. Once in a great while an Amish person will ask me to not photograph them. I always readily agree to honor their wishes. Still, it leaves a bad aftertaste. The Farmer's market is held on public property - the parking lot of city hall. No expectation of privacy there.
The bottom line is that whether the adherents are Amish, Islamic or of another religious practice, they are attempting to impose their religious beliefs and practices on others who do not adhere to their faith.
No person has a right to attempt to impose the code of their religion on others who do not adhere to it, or to make demands that go against the customs and laws of the nation which is hosting them. There is just no way around that fact.
If I were traveling in the middle east - say, Iraq - I would abide by the laws and customs of Iraq; as people have counseled we so-called ugly Americans for decades, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." Any reasonable person would readily agree that reciprocal treatment of U.S. citizens while on the soil of their own nation is in order.
It is therefore incumbent upon Islamic adherents (and followers of all other religions) in the U.S. to honor the host nation's laws and customs.
Those laws and customs permit - no, guarantee - the right of the U.S. citizen to photograph unfettered and without being badgered, intimidated and coerced by other people in the public environment. There is just no way around that fact.
hepcat
Former PH, USN
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, as everyone knows, is The One True God and He has spoken on the subject. I didn't understand exactly what He said, but I'm sure it was important. Pastafarians everywhere decries this miscarriage of... well... of... well whatever we were talking about. 
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
The problem of course is that by photographing them you are imposing your own beliefs on them as well.
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
...Which is the prerogative of the U.S. citizen when at home in the U.S. - just as prohibiting photography of Islamic women is the prerogative of Iraqi citizens when at home in Iraq, yes?The problem of course is that by photographing them you are imposing your own beliefs on them as well.
This brings us back to the time honored traveler's adage, "When in ROME, do as the ROMANS do."
Sunti
Established
No worries guys. There is one exception - rangefinder shooters are exempted, double merit credit if you shoot film.
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
I'll most certainly go along with that proposal!
(And it's triple merit credit if you shoot a rangefinder loaded with film with a 35mm or wider lens)...
mfogiel
Veteran
To wrap this discussion up, my opinion, is, that humanity is more than ready to turn the page on religions. There is enough evidence, that reason and scientific method provide better guidance, and the fostering of cognitive abilities of humans is the only way forward, as collective problems will have to be tackled globally on basis of common ground consensus. The most reliable cognitive models are based on rational thinking, and the consensus can only be reached on this ground.
We will not be able to decide on anything, if we continue to behave on basis of (different) assumptions produced out of thin air.
Hereby, I declare religions dead.
We will not be able to decide on anything, if we continue to behave on basis of (different) assumptions produced out of thin air.
Hereby, I declare religions dead.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Presumably as in:
God is dead
Marx is dead
And lately I've not been feeling too well myself.
Cheers,
R.
Rodchenko
Olympian
Roger, I don't think you need to do yourself down by comparing with Marx or God. You're a much better photographer than either of them!
daveleo
what?
And keep in mind . . . when you take a digital picture, you go to hell immediately. With film, you don't go until it's developed and printed - so film shooters live longer.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
RAW is the solution. Or the Winogrand method - leave processing to your heirs.
robur
Established
My wife agrees it`s a sin. Not do I.
FrankS
Registered User
How can rules that sound petty and small-minded to most men (humans) possibly come from god who is supposed to be infinitely wise? Just doesn't pass the BS sniff test.
See my signature.
Greg (Cosmonaut), I'd love to here more about your experience!
See my signature.
Greg (Cosmonaut), I'd love to here more about your experience!
Aristophanes
Well-known
When you join a photography club in high school because the darkroom is a place to take girls, then, yes, it is a sin.
Mea culpa.
Mea culpa.
Aristophanes
Well-known
stompyq
Well-known
I worry that these crazy idiots are growing in number and the moderates are loosing their voice in India. I see the same trend in my own home country.
kshapero
South Florida Man
Lets stand back a minute. It was one Muslim opinion. Things like this are common in all religions. Loonie or not it doesn't mean suddenly everyone or anyone in that religion is following it. I fault the media on this for giving the impression that it is some wide ranging dictum.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
What is more, the definition of sin and the attitude towards sin are quite different matters - just about everything about me is a sin according to the official doctrine of the catholic church, but as they stopped burning sinners like me at the stake and merely threaten me with things to happen after my death, I could care less...
hipsterdufus
Photographer?
Hahaha. Love this!