Photoshop

[kuzano]

Still using PS7.....

Still using PS7.....

Have had CS2 and CS3. Have used them both.

I'm still using Photoshop 7. Discarded the other two.

The need for RAW converter is not a need for me. I don't shoot RAW.

I shoot film, with some digital mixed in.

Leasing any Adobe product is not in my game plan. Elements and LR will be next if Adobe pulls this lease program off.

 

[david.elliott]

My concerns / complaints....

-- I use photoshop and acrobat, but little else. No subscription available for that...
-- Using CS6, once it is no longer getting camera raw updates new cameras will not be supported. I guess at that point I either a) stop buying new digital cameras or b) go through lightroom or a dng converter or c) give in and subscribe to the cloud. Weak.
-- If I go with the suite for $50 a month, that is much more expensive than my previous purchases at whatever interval I'd made them. $600 a year is a lot of money. If I go with photoshop only, then I am missing acrobat and $240 a year is still a not insubstantial sum of money. Guess I better plan on working X hours of overtime annually to pay for Adobe stuff.

capture one, dx0, etc are not real competitors with photoshop. They are competitors with lightroom, but they just don't have the same feature set or let you accomplish the same tasks as photoshop. Apart from gimp (which is a few generations behind), there is no real photoshop competitor that I know of. Maybe corel paintshop pro -- but I'm not familiar enough with that to comment.

edit -- I think I will just stick with cs6 and continue to either use lightroom then edit tiffs in photoshop as I usually do. Or, switch to dx0 or capture one and edit tiffs in photoshop cs6. not going to buy into annoying monthly subscription setup.

 

[SausalitoDog]

I have always wondered what the percentage of Photoshop piracy is. I guess one would have to only count the serious users and not just those who tried it since they could get a copy without paying. I have never seen any reliable info on this, just pure internet speculation.

I do know from my knowledge of Adobe that there is a direct link between revenues from new product sales plus upgrades and the spending on enhancements. That goes back to John Warnock's memos to employees some 30 years ago. So Adobe could drop their price 20% but that would simply mean they would spend 20% less on new development. I assume Adobe believes they have found that "sweet spot" in pricing to return what is needed for future development and growth.

The percentage of piracy is just a cunnard. Adobe whines about that all the time, but their argument is flawed. It is like the gun control lobby suggesting that illegal use of guns will go away if all gun sales are registered etc. Really, oh, if there is a law (or registration scheme from adobe), all the illegal users will miraculously convert to legal users...NOT

Adobe waives this flag so they can continue to raise prices with very little improvement in the product.

I think photoshop sales would be almost zero if you could buy ACR as a separate app.

 

[user237428934]

I think photoshop sales would be almost zero if you could buy ACR as a separate app.

There is Photoshop Elements for 80€ with ACR inside. Why do you think people buy Photoshop? Not because they are stupid but because they really want to have the extra features compared to PSE or LR (that also contains ACR)

 

[dseelig]

I for one will just use Aperture once photoshop no longer works. I cannot afford the cloud I am a working pro but not rich enough to pay them there money so one more corpoate jet can be bought or some rich a------ can get a multi million dollar bonus when I am barely affording the essentials. I have legally kept photoshop on my computers since 1995 but no more. Screw Adobe