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i am really liking the 21 mm lens on my rd1 and the cv is a nice lens...small and sharp, easy to focus or just use hyperfocal distance method...but i want something faster...
like a 1.4 to expand usage...but who has that sort of cash to afford one?
not i...
like a 1.4 to expand usage...but who has that sort of cash to afford one?
not i...
ferider
Veteran
Well .... you could spend your X100 budget on a Zuiko 21/2 with adapter; not a bad lens at all and you don't need RF coupling, do you ? 
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Well .... you could spend your X100 budget on a Zuiko 21/2 with adapter; not a bad lens at all and you don't need RF coupling, do you ?
my x100 $$ was likely to be from selling one of the rd1s.
i would be hard pressed to sell one for a lens though.
BillBingham2
Registered User
Why should we worry about you? Your Dollar is now worth more than ours!
Table Top Tripod.
B2 (;->
Table Top Tripod.
B2 (;->
kshapero
South Florida Man
I feel your pain brother, same boat, plus that 21 lux is huge.
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
A fast 21mm that doesn't break the bank? Now we just play the waiting game with Cosina, who knows what they'll surprise us with next.
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i'm hoping cosina is listening also...
Todd Frederick
Todd Frederick
Joe...as you know I'm using Al Kaplan's old Bessa-L body and got a 21mm f/4 CV lens from his son. That should be a lens that can be hand held at 1/15th sec which would with some care, press it close to your cheek and such, or at least 1/30th which would be an equivalent of f/2. I'm trying to practice some 1/15th shots inside the house, and we'll see how well I do. I can't justify the extra cost or size of an f/2 lens for a small camera.
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oh i know...
f4 really isn't all that bad...but something 2 or under would be such a treat,
f4 really isn't all that bad...but something 2 or under would be such a treat,
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isorgb
Well-known
and it was wrong way.
gekopaca
French photographer
Did somebody try to use a table tripod pushed on his chest?
Personnaly I shot like that with my 12mm f5.6 @ 1/15, even 1/8 with rather good results…
When I could also support my shoulder against a tree / wall, the results were even better.
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rxmd
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A 12mm lens is just about the most un-critical lens you can get. It's so wide that you can shoot 1/15 handheld without a tripod. Subject motion is more of a problem.
gekopaca
French photographer
Sorry I don't understand your message.
I was speaking about low-light situations, and I use the same technic with all my other lenses.
I only choose the 12mm as example because it's f5.6 (regarding the subject of that thread)
So : did you try that technic, with your 50mm or whatever?
LCT
ex-newbie
Faster means bigger unfortunately. I don't use much the Elmarit 21/2.8 asph for this only reason.
Why not a compromise?
Zeiss Ikon Biogon T* 21mm f/2.8 ZM
Zeiss Ikon Biogon T* 21mm f/2.8 ZM
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size and $$...but i may go that route anyway.
Sparrow
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holding a 12mm at 1/15 is the same (as easy) as holding a 50mm at 1/60 because of the FOV
gekopaca
French photographer
Ok, Ok, you're right…
So, have you tried the above technique to get 1, 2 or 3 stops in low light situations with a 50mm or even longer lens?
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
There is a rule of thumb that short lenses are much easier to hand-hold than long ones. Usually we say that you can comfortably shoot hand-held at focal length X down to a speed of 1/X. So even shooting an 12mm lens at 1/8 is just like shooting a 50mm lens at 1/30, i.e. it doesn't really say much about the stability of the tripod.
I did and found it rather awkward. Among this kind of solutions I prefer a long piece of string attached to a tripod screw. However, tastes differ; one man's owl is another man's nightingale.
I find that in wideangles there is really no replacement for lens speed, (except maybe a camera with good high ISO capabilities
). The Summilux 21/f1.4 is one of the few Leica lenses that I'm seriously interested in.