jbf
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Hi All,
I scored a makina 67 from Vintage Visuals in Canda.
However I notice that the viewfinder framelines and RF patch are very dim. Is this a common problem with the Plaubel Makina 67?
Also, I am missing a rubber eye piece for the camera, and I wear glasses. Does anyone know where I can find such a thing? Or a place where I can find parts such as this?
Cheers,
Jonathan
I scored a makina 67 from Vintage Visuals in Canda.
However I notice that the viewfinder framelines and RF patch are very dim. Is this a common problem with the Plaubel Makina 67?
Also, I am missing a rubber eye piece for the camera, and I wear glasses. Does anyone know where I can find such a thing? Or a place where I can find parts such as this?
Cheers,
Jonathan
bob338
Well-known
Nippon Camera in NYC and Plaubel will fix it but it is very expensive, even for a CLA.
How dim are the framelines? Are they still usable? I wouldn't attempt to clean it myself, those little meter wires are supposedly very easy to damage.
How dim are the framelines? Are they still usable? I wouldn't attempt to clean it myself, those little meter wires are supposedly very easy to damage.
agfa100
Well-known
Plaubel Makina 67
You might try here on the outside chance that they might still have some small parts....
http://www.plaubel.com/
Also there is a repair shop in NYC nippon (something) google them, they used to repair the Plaubel's and might have some small parts.
Good luck
wbill
You might try here on the outside chance that they might still have some small parts....
http://www.plaubel.com/
Also there is a repair shop in NYC nippon (something) google them, they used to repair the Plaubel's and might have some small parts.
Good luck
wbill
saturnales
Established
It's a great camera! I found the new Voigtlander/Fuji 6x6 in the same class.
agfa100
Well-known
Plaubel Makina 67
Here's their contact info
Nippon Photo Clinic Service
920 Broadway
Ste 705
(between 20th St & 21st St)
New York, NY 10010
Neighborhood: Flatiron
(212) 982-3177
Here's their contact info
Nippon Photo Clinic Service
920 Broadway
Ste 705
(between 20th St & 21st St)
New York, NY 10010
Neighborhood: Flatiron
(212) 982-3177
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The framelines/rf patch are incredibly dim in normal/shade lighting.
I called and it seems like its a fairly standard price (What I've paid for my leica to be CLA'd).
About 250-290 for a CLA generally... So I imagine somewhere like 300 or so.
I think Ill send it away to them.
I called and it seems like its a fairly standard price (What I've paid for my leica to be CLA'd).
About 250-290 for a CLA generally... So I imagine somewhere like 300 or so.
I think Ill send it away to them.
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agfa100
Well-known
Plaubel makina 67
Plaubel makina 67
Great, I always wanted one of those, but never found one I could afford. Either I had the money and couldn't find a camera or I found a camera and had no funds. Always a day late and a dollar short.
wbill
Plaubel makina 67
Great, I always wanted one of those, but never found one I could afford. Either I had the money and couldn't find a camera or I found a camera and had no funds. Always a day late and a dollar short.
wbill
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Fortunately, by the time I could (a) afford one and (b) find one, I decided that (c) I had enough cameras already.
Cheers,
R.
SomeDayBeyond
Member
I just scored one myself last Tuesday. At 1000€ not exactly cheap, but they do come more expensive, and this one appears to be in good nick. Still, I am selling gear to make up for the lost funds...
To reply to your questions, the framelines are clear in my finder. So is the patch (though I do need to get used to it, being an all-time slr user).
I have not heard of a rubber eyecup, nor does the original brochure mention one.
It is a beautiful camera, both to work with and to watch. If all else works, I'd have it CLA'd if they know what to do about the problems you mention.
To reply to your questions, the framelines are clear in my finder. So is the patch (though I do need to get used to it, being an all-time slr user).
I have not heard of a rubber eyecup, nor does the original brochure mention one.
It is a beautiful camera, both to work with and to watch. If all else works, I'd have it CLA'd if they know what to do about the problems you mention.
andredossantos
Well-known
I've never owned a Plaubel before but ive used Nippon many times for various other cameras and they are very reliable and usually pretty quick (unless they need to order parts). Good luck and congrats on the Makina. A sweet camera indeed.
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furcafe
Veteran
I have the 67 & the 670 & the framelines & RF patches are dimmer than a Leica M, but should still be very usable, about the same as a Fuji GW670/690III & the like.
As to the eyepiece, from what I can tell, the originals had smooth, black metal, not rubber rings. Unlike the Fuji RFs, it's not the same as the Cosina Voigtlander Bessas, Epson R-D1, Nikon FE/FM, etc.
As to the eyepiece, from what I can tell, the originals had smooth, black metal, not rubber rings. Unlike the Fuji RFs, it's not the same as the Cosina Voigtlander Bessas, Epson R-D1, Nikon FE/FM, etc.
Nick De Marco
Well-known
I scored one on 30 December. Was expensive but the ebay seller accepted £200 of the asking price. Just had my first rolls of film developed and it is all in working order.
I had one before and stupidly sold it (one of the cameras I really regretted selling). The prices seem to have almost doubled in 5 years....
I wanted it for travel, having a small large-mdium format folder with a fast lens to go with the M9 and/or M 35mm cameras. I sold the Mamiya 7 some time ago, and never regretted it, as I founf it too bulky especially with the lenses. the Mamiya 6 is much more sensible, but the Plaubel gives a bigger neg, a faster lens, and fold up smaller - so I had to get it again
I had one before and stupidly sold it (one of the cameras I really regretted selling). The prices seem to have almost doubled in 5 years....
I wanted it for travel, having a small large-mdium format folder with a fast lens to go with the M9 and/or M 35mm cameras. I sold the Mamiya 7 some time ago, and never regretted it, as I founf it too bulky especially with the lenses. the Mamiya 6 is much more sensible, but the Plaubel gives a bigger neg, a faster lens, and fold up smaller - so I had to get it again
DrTebi
Slide Lover
I have a Makina 670. The RF patch is not too dim, although not as bright as the one of a Leica or XPan.
Just to let you know, the Plaubel company still exists (as mentioned above somewhere), and they repair the Makinas. Prices are fairly reasonable. My shutter stopped working and I sent if off to Germany, got it back pretty fast (considering the overseas shipping) and paid 218 Euros. Now it's perfectly fine again:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drtebi/6605834947/in/photostream/lightbox/
As a side note: Many people complain that the camera is prone to having problems due to electrical wires that run from the body to the lens, which upon collapsing the lens to rapidly could break. I have not had this problem, but you may want to be a bit careful when folding/unfolding, and I also heard that one should put the focus back to infinity before collapsing the lens.
That being said, a Makina user at apug.org said he put more than 2000 rolls through the camera until he "smashed" the top, which he had then repaired (through Nippon). Regarding the electrical wire problem he says:
"I honestly believe that all the electrical problems reported in various forums are the result of knuckleheads opening and closing the lens as if it were a switch blade."
(http://www.apug.org/forums/forum65/...der-built-light-meter-6x7-6x9-negative-2.html)
'hope that helps!
Just to let you know, the Plaubel company still exists (as mentioned above somewhere), and they repair the Makinas. Prices are fairly reasonable. My shutter stopped working and I sent if off to Germany, got it back pretty fast (considering the overseas shipping) and paid 218 Euros. Now it's perfectly fine again:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drtebi/6605834947/in/photostream/lightbox/
As a side note: Many people complain that the camera is prone to having problems due to electrical wires that run from the body to the lens, which upon collapsing the lens to rapidly could break. I have not had this problem, but you may want to be a bit careful when folding/unfolding, and I also heard that one should put the focus back to infinity before collapsing the lens.
That being said, a Makina user at apug.org said he put more than 2000 rolls through the camera until he "smashed" the top, which he had then repaired (through Nippon). Regarding the electrical wire problem he says:
"I honestly believe that all the electrical problems reported in various forums are the result of knuckleheads opening and closing the lens as if it were a switch blade."
(http://www.apug.org/forums/forum65/...der-built-light-meter-6x7-6x9-negative-2.html)
'hope that helps!
myoptic
Member
There are a handful of cameras I would like to own someday... the Plaubel Makina 6x7 is high up on that list..
David
David
wideone
richard in the rockies
I bought my plaubel 67 in 1980 and still have it and love it. Occasionally think of selling it but too sweet.... sharp and easy to use. And the best part is that the eyecups and diopters from the nikon fm/fe series screw right into that tiny eyepiece. Much easier to see the rangefinder lines with the eyecup.
Enjoy the wee beastie...
Richard
Enjoy the wee beastie...
Richard
DrTebi
Slide Lover
Nice, I didn't know that. My eyes are not perfect anymore (too much time on the computer!), I should look for a diopter for the Plaubel. Any clues on how I can find out what diopter number I need?
Matus
Well-known
As an owner of Mamiya 6 (and all 3 lenses) I would love to hear how does the Makina (80/2.8) compares user-wise to Mamiya 6 or the new Bessa/Fuji III.
Purely based on what I have seen on flickr, I find that Plaubel gives the most attractive OOF with wide open shots, plus the size of the camera seems really attractive.
So - how do you guys find the Plaubel in every day use?
Purely based on what I have seen on flickr, I find that Plaubel gives the most attractive OOF with wide open shots, plus the size of the camera seems really attractive.
So - how do you guys find the Plaubel in every day use?
furcafe
Veteran
Really? Per my earlier post, I haven't found the Nikon/Cosina eyepieces to fit at all (unlike on my Fuji GW670III & GF 670) on my 67 & 670. Maybe there's a piece that's missing on both of mine or do the eyecups & diopters screw into the eyepiece itself?
DrTebi
Slide Lover
My Mamiya 7II is still with the post office... however I can tell you a bit about the Makina 670.
First of all, it's size it absolutely great. Once the lens is collapsed, it's really flat and super-easy to carry, even on long hikes (which I usually do, often 4-8 hours). I use it mostly for landscape photography, or historical places and objects. I don't think I can recommend it for any busy places--it does have bellows afterall. So if you don't want to extend the lens for every single shot, you will most likely leave it out, which might be a bit dangerous in a crowd. It extends quite a bit, and, besides the tongues at the bottom, there is no protection around the bellows.
When it comes to shooting, it will take a short time to get used to, but once you are used to it, you will enjoy the little differences: aperture and shutter speed rings are by the lens, but to focus, you use your thumb and index finger of your right hand to turn the knob around the shutter release button. That may sound awkward, but I got used to it quickly and actually really like it. The shutter and aperture rings have a small "lip" that help you to find/grab them, but they are not rubberized nor do they have any profile/texture that makes it easier to grab them. This would help, in my opinion.
But that is pretty much all there is in terms of handling. To use the meter, you set the aperture and the shutter speed, and then press the little button on the back of the camera. Inside the viewfinder a light will go on--either plus, minus, or a circle, to indicate what the meter suggests. It's quite quick to do, and after just looking through about 120 Images, I can say with confidence that the meter works very well. No blown out images, and only a few slides that are a bit dark--but that was mostly due to experimenting with a polarizer and/or pushing film...
The lens produces beautiful and sharp images, even at 2.8. However, your depth of field is extremely limited at that aperture, so use with care.
The rangefinder is bright, and the spot is also visible even in lower light conditions.
I haven't tried a flash yet. I did some pix in low light, it works, but with ISO 400 it was tough to make people sit still
Overall, I am extremely satisfied with the camera. For a wider angle, I would have bought the Makina W67 in a heartbeat, but everything I found was at collectors prices. That's why I went for the Mamiya 7II with a 50mm lens... I am curious to see how it compares to the Plaubel.
Most of my images on flickr were shot with the Makina 670. They are all tagged, so you can click on the "Makina 670" Tag and see only those if you want. I use a local lab and scan by myself with a Minolta Dimage Multi Pro.
MikeL
Go Fish
Yeah, different size on the 670 than the Nikons. I haven't found one of the right size despite some looking.