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Børre Ludvigsen
Plaubel Makina 67, 670, 670W. Camera by Copal, then Mamiya - lens by Nikon. Perfect for travel!
PBM 67 at Montejaque, Andalusia:
PBM 67 at Montejaque, Andalusia:
Matus
Well-known
DrTebi, thank you (and sorry for a late reply). Did your Mamiya 7 arrived already? I would love to hear your impression on how the Makina and Mamiya compares from the user point of view (viefinder, meter, RF, film advance ...)
I can not help it, but keep checking the Makina on eBay after I go through the Flickr
I can not help it, but keep checking the Makina on eBay after I go through the Flickr
DrTebi
Slide Lover
@Matus:
Yes, the Mamiya arrived a while ago, and is in pretty good shape. The trouble is, that I am too involved in university work at the moment, and have way too little time to take it out and shoot. It bugs me quite a bit, but I will have to wait for the summer break.
Nevertheless, I managed to shoot two rolls with it so far. The first was Fujichrome Velvia 100F, the second Kodak Ektar 100. Both turned out very nice, although I definitely prefer the Fuji, which I also find much easier to scan.
Compared to the Plaubel Makina, the Mamiya feels lighter (and is lighter), the big plastic covering may appear a bit less rugged than that of the Plaubel, yet it certainly does not feel like a "cheap" camera. Not having to extend the lens was a big plus. Of course I could just leave the lens on the Plaubel out at all times, but I am always a bit worried I could damage the bellows.
The Mamiya has an on/off button... that's something to get used to if you mostly shoot older cameras. The shutter speed is displayed in the viewfinder, which is nice and certainly helpful. On the Plaubel you will have to press the button on the back to check the lightmeter, and you only get a plus/OK/minus sign.
Film advance was flawless, I had no problems here. With the Plaubel it feels awkward at times, well, for one you have to wind twice on the Plaubel, but at times it seems to get a bit misaligned or something. With my last roll on the Plaubel I had a few frames that needed four of five windings?!? It may have been my fault, I think the film spool was not secured properly. The film came out fine however.
While the rangefinder on the Plaubel is very good, the one on the Mamiya is even better. Especially after using an SLR, and even a digital camera with manual focus help modes, it's just wonderful to be back in rangefinder-land--it's so much easier to focus. No complaints about the Mamiya rangefinder at all.
The metering of the Mamiya was superb. On the light table everything looked perfectly exposed. Scanning was easy (of the Velvia slides at least), and I had beautifully exposed slides. I did pay a bit attention to treat the meter more like a spot meter though, so that may have helped.
The image quality is superb. Extremely sharp. I cannot say much about the bokeh yet, as I have the 50mm lens and shot mostly distant subjects. From the little I can see though, I would say that the Plaubel has a more pleasing bokeh, the Mamiya seems too precise, if I can call it that. Anyway, the detail the Mamiya delivers with the 50mm lens on Velvia 100F is stunning. Here is an example:
The slide was scanned on my Minolta Dimage Multi Pro, which scans MF slides at 3200dpi. I only do minor curve adjustments in Photoshop, no sharpening or anything else.
By the way... I always shoot the same 10 images or so when I test a new camera or film, and although the weather of course plays a big role, it gives me at least some good ideas of resolution. The Mamiya has won so far With a Lumix GH2 with 16MB sensor, I got close to the same detail, however, that was with a 50mm Pentax-M lens shot from the same spot (in other words, I was much close to the house)! And the film rendering is of course so much sexier, what can I say.
Bottom Line: I can't wait for the summer to shoot the Mamiya more. I might even get the 80mm as well... although I like the extra stops I get with the Plaubel, which makes low-light photography with a fast film quite possible. With f/4 that would get tough. Nevertheless, I would not sell the Plaubel, it's different, it's cool, it delivers amazing pictures (see my latest ones here on flickr).
Yes, the Mamiya arrived a while ago, and is in pretty good shape. The trouble is, that I am too involved in university work at the moment, and have way too little time to take it out and shoot. It bugs me quite a bit, but I will have to wait for the summer break.
Nevertheless, I managed to shoot two rolls with it so far. The first was Fujichrome Velvia 100F, the second Kodak Ektar 100. Both turned out very nice, although I definitely prefer the Fuji, which I also find much easier to scan.
Compared to the Plaubel Makina, the Mamiya feels lighter (and is lighter), the big plastic covering may appear a bit less rugged than that of the Plaubel, yet it certainly does not feel like a "cheap" camera. Not having to extend the lens was a big plus. Of course I could just leave the lens on the Plaubel out at all times, but I am always a bit worried I could damage the bellows.
The Mamiya has an on/off button... that's something to get used to if you mostly shoot older cameras. The shutter speed is displayed in the viewfinder, which is nice and certainly helpful. On the Plaubel you will have to press the button on the back to check the lightmeter, and you only get a plus/OK/minus sign.
Film advance was flawless, I had no problems here. With the Plaubel it feels awkward at times, well, for one you have to wind twice on the Plaubel, but at times it seems to get a bit misaligned or something. With my last roll on the Plaubel I had a few frames that needed four of five windings?!? It may have been my fault, I think the film spool was not secured properly. The film came out fine however.
While the rangefinder on the Plaubel is very good, the one on the Mamiya is even better. Especially after using an SLR, and even a digital camera with manual focus help modes, it's just wonderful to be back in rangefinder-land--it's so much easier to focus. No complaints about the Mamiya rangefinder at all.
The metering of the Mamiya was superb. On the light table everything looked perfectly exposed. Scanning was easy (of the Velvia slides at least), and I had beautifully exposed slides. I did pay a bit attention to treat the meter more like a spot meter though, so that may have helped.
The image quality is superb. Extremely sharp. I cannot say much about the bokeh yet, as I have the 50mm lens and shot mostly distant subjects. From the little I can see though, I would say that the Plaubel has a more pleasing bokeh, the Mamiya seems too precise, if I can call it that. Anyway, the detail the Mamiya delivers with the 50mm lens on Velvia 100F is stunning. Here is an example:
The slide was scanned on my Minolta Dimage Multi Pro, which scans MF slides at 3200dpi. I only do minor curve adjustments in Photoshop, no sharpening or anything else.
By the way... I always shoot the same 10 images or so when I test a new camera or film, and although the weather of course plays a big role, it gives me at least some good ideas of resolution. The Mamiya has won so far
With a Lumix GH2 with 16MB sensor, I got close to the same detail, however, that was with a 50mm Pentax-M lens shot from the same spot (in other words, I was much close to the house)! And the film rendering is of course so much sexier, what can I say.Bottom Line: I can't wait for the summer to shoot the Mamiya more. I might even get the 80mm as well... although I like the extra stops I get with the Plaubel, which makes low-light photography with a fast film quite possible. With f/4 that would get tough. Nevertheless, I would not sell the Plaubel, it's different, it's cool, it delivers amazing pictures (see my latest ones here on flickr).
maitani
Well-known
Those Plaubels rock!
I'm after a Makina W67 for a reasonable price for ages, one day it will be mine
I'm after a Makina W67 for a reasonable price for ages, one day it will be mine