zwarte_kat
Well-known
Just tried one out in the store, a few observations:
-The viewfinder is really nice, definitely big and bright enough for me, but I have perfect eyesight. It optically zooms along with the lens. However, no overlays, so it doesn't show you what's focussed or give you any other information. At least a small black rectangle in the middle would have been nice for me, just so that i can put spot autofocus in the middle and use that as a guide.
-It's a quite a bit lighter than the X100, but not much smaller. It could fit in a jacket pocket,but then you also need to put on the lens cap. It's no GRD.
-image quality seemed good... on the LCD screen. High ISO too, was surprised after checking the info on my first shot that it was 800 iso. A lot of detail, but when zoomed in I could see the small sensor pixel orgies, kind of like the GRD. I didn't try higher ISO's. My opinion is that high iso performance can only be judged when actually shooting in low light. In a bright store Fuji 1600 iso film will look great, too. It's not a miracle sensor, but very good for the size. But for the price?
-Overal operation seemed nice, but needs some getting used to. You really need to program the custom functions to use it well, I think.
-after the X10 I picked up the X100 again, and I really appreciated the overlays in the viewfinder. I think the X100 is better for seriously composed shots, and the X10 is more for quick snaps.
-Autofocus seemed fast, but not always spot on, I even had trouble with spot autofocus. I think with adjusting some more settings and a bit of practice, it should generally be no problem to focus in most situations.
-Macro shots looked really good
-Nice LCD screen
-The zoom range seemed far less impressive than I had imagined, but I usually shoot events with 2 7D bodies with zoom lenses with combined range from about 21mm to 300mm, so I'm spoiled in that regard. Also it was tight up with a lock in the store, so I couldn't really move around with it. Maybe it's more fun to pick a focal length, set it, and shoot for a while, then change it every now and then. Makes you more aware of the proces, and it feels like changing lenses
I decided not to buy it. I might get the X100. Second hand it's not much more expensive than a new X10. Besides the zoom or the price, I don't see any reason to get the X10 over the X100. Not the weight, definitely not the size, not the focus either. I think it's little use to get both. Will check though how people's images turn out. It's still in the back of my head somewhere, and not TOO expensive.
It was fun to play with. Perhaps I wil get one when they turn up second hand for about ¥45.000 or less.
-The viewfinder is really nice, definitely big and bright enough for me, but I have perfect eyesight. It optically zooms along with the lens. However, no overlays, so it doesn't show you what's focussed or give you any other information. At least a small black rectangle in the middle would have been nice for me, just so that i can put spot autofocus in the middle and use that as a guide.
-It's a quite a bit lighter than the X100, but not much smaller. It could fit in a jacket pocket,but then you also need to put on the lens cap. It's no GRD.
-image quality seemed good... on the LCD screen. High ISO too, was surprised after checking the info on my first shot that it was 800 iso. A lot of detail, but when zoomed in I could see the small sensor pixel orgies, kind of like the GRD. I didn't try higher ISO's. My opinion is that high iso performance can only be judged when actually shooting in low light. In a bright store Fuji 1600 iso film will look great, too. It's not a miracle sensor, but very good for the size. But for the price?
-Overal operation seemed nice, but needs some getting used to. You really need to program the custom functions to use it well, I think.
-after the X10 I picked up the X100 again, and I really appreciated the overlays in the viewfinder. I think the X100 is better for seriously composed shots, and the X10 is more for quick snaps.
-Autofocus seemed fast, but not always spot on, I even had trouble with spot autofocus. I think with adjusting some more settings and a bit of practice, it should generally be no problem to focus in most situations.
-Macro shots looked really good
-Nice LCD screen
-The zoom range seemed far less impressive than I had imagined, but I usually shoot events with 2 7D bodies with zoom lenses with combined range from about 21mm to 300mm, so I'm spoiled in that regard. Also it was tight up with a lock in the store, so I couldn't really move around with it. Maybe it's more fun to pick a focal length, set it, and shoot for a while, then change it every now and then. Makes you more aware of the proces, and it feels like changing lenses
I decided not to buy it. I might get the X100. Second hand it's not much more expensive than a new X10. Besides the zoom or the price, I don't see any reason to get the X10 over the X100. Not the weight, definitely not the size, not the focus either. I think it's little use to get both. Will check though how people's images turn out. It's still in the back of my head somewhere, and not TOO expensive.
It was fun to play with. Perhaps I wil get one when they turn up second hand for about ¥45.000 or less.
My guess is that Fuji made the X10 to capitalize on the popularity of the Canon G series not to entice X100 owners.
kshapero
South Florida Man
Wow a used X100 is already down to the X10 price?!?
No...not at all. X10 = $599 and the X100 used is $1000-$1100.
kuzano
Veteran
Keenly watched eBay auctions....
Keenly watched eBay auctions....
show a couple of X100's sold for $750-800. Anticipate more of these lower prices as the bloom comes off the (X100) rose and the holidays fly by. With the GOP more committed to making Obama a one term president (morons) than getting ANY real work done in Congress, and Winter damage to the jobs report, X100's will be flying onto eBay and selling well under $800. My self esteemed opinion.
If you are disillusioned by your X100, right now is the time to sell. Don't wait.
Keenly watched eBay auctions....
show a couple of X100's sold for $750-800. Anticipate more of these lower prices as the bloom comes off the (X100) rose and the holidays fly by. With the GOP more committed to making Obama a one term president (morons) than getting ANY real work done in Congress, and Winter damage to the jobs report, X100's will be flying onto eBay and selling well under $800. My self esteemed opinion.
If you are disillusioned by your X100, right now is the time to sell. Don't wait.
kshapero
South Florida Man
Interesting way to make an arse of yourself.
Please provide a source.
ferider
Veteran
280758018411 - Would you buy from Croatia (I can only accept MONEYBOOKERS payments and bank transfers)? This person did not get anything for their $800.00 because it is a scam.
320781721171 - Would you buy from someone with -1 feedback (2 negative feedback remarks out of 3)?
There are always reasons why something sells below its normal price on ebay... you just have to look at the auction. Location, payment options, feedback, and inaccurate descriptions are always things you have to look at. $900 is probably true, since that is 75% of new i.e. normal for used cameras, but they also routinely go for between $1000-1100 on ebay too.
claacct
Well-known
In Toronto's Craigslist there are 11 Fuji X100's for sale as of now! http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/search/?areaID=25&subAreaID=&query=fuji+x100&catAbb=sss
They're all priced at $1100 - $1000 but anyone who looks at that page knows that those prices have to come down for the cameras to sell.
They're all priced at $1100 - $1000 but anyone who looks at that page knows that those prices have to come down for the cameras to sell.
Yes, supply has completely caught up with (and out ran) demand it appears. Wow... it's a great camera but I guess people expected miracles. Still Fuji sold over 70,000 of these in 6 or so months...there are bound to be a lot on the used market for a long time.
FranZ
Established
Hi Guys,
In the Netherlands, the going internet new price is €1099, I paid for my 2nd hand X100, including adapter, shade and UV filter €800.
(after 2 month use, 1078 actuations.)
I think this to be a good deal for a cam to experiment with.
(I like the X100 very much, able to shootat 2.8 / 3200 ISO at 1/15 handheld with a for my purpose very good IQ)
In the Netherlands, the going internet new price is €1099, I paid for my 2nd hand X100, including adapter, shade and UV filter €800.
(after 2 month use, 1078 actuations.)
I think this to be a good deal for a cam to experiment with.
(I like the X100 very much, able to shootat 2.8 / 3200 ISO at 1/15 handheld with a for my purpose very good IQ)
zwarte_kat
Well-known
I said "not much more expensive". I just meant that with the difference, I wouldn't let price be a deciding factor for me. In Tokyo, you can get a second hand x100 in the store for ¥80.000, so probably less online. An X10 costs ¥70.000, though when you subtract the points you receive it's ¥64.000.
Sure, it's about 150 Dollars, I guess. Interesting how much (even political) response that one line provoked
I went for an x100 BTW, amazing camera so far.