Poll: Which Bokeh do you prefer?

Poll: Which Bokeh do you prefer?

  • Number 1

    Votes: 180 55.2%

  • Number 2

    Votes: 146 44.8%
  • Total voters
    326
I don't like either, either. I prefer a more neutral blurring than what is exhibited here, the blur patches are too defined, too much spherical aborration.
 
I don't like either and like #2 least. it looks like Vaseline was used on the outside of the lens or filter creating a tunnel/swirl in the center. Definitely not to my taste.
 
Seems like too much coma and poorly corrected astigmatism in the second. Prefer the first over the second, but neither over what I already have (and will I be embarrassed when it turns out I have both already and didn't even recognize them).
LJS
 
Assuming that both shots show the full frame, No. 2 is either a slightly longer focal length or you moved a little closer to the subject when you took the shot ;)

I'm guessing that No. 1 is the Heliar 50/2 and No. 2 is a faster lens, maybe 50/1.2?
 
jonmanjiro said:
Assuming that both shots show the full frame, No. 2 is either a slightly longer focal length or you moved a little closer to the subject when you took the shot ;)

I'm guessing that No. 1 is the Heliar 50/2 and No. 2 is a faster lens, maybe 50/1.2?
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The OP stated they are the same FL at the same apeture. The DOF is also very similar, not as different as a f/1.2 vs an f/2 lens would be.
 
TWoK said:
The OP stated they are the same FL at the same apeture. The DOF is also very similar, not as different as a f/1.2 vs an f/2 lens would be.
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Well I just read through the thread and the OP said this:

These shots were taken with the same film, in the same camera, mounted on a tripod and not moved between lens changes. You can actually see a slight difference in focal length even though they both claim the same focal length.
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Not unusual for there to be slight focal length differences, even between lenses that are nominally the same focal length.

The OP also said:

Both of these were shot wide open at the same aperture, same focal length. One is a Voigtlander lens and the other is not.
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So I guess both lenses have the same maximum aperture as well as being shot at the same aperture (which was probably f2 since the OP has a Heliar), so I guess that removes the 50/1.2 from the selection.
 
I find both ok, but each would have it's own application. In this case, I consider this background less appropriate for #2, but I could see it used for other subjects.

Steven
 
Shot # 1 Zeiss Planar 50/2.0
Shot # 2 Heliar Classic 50/2.0

... just a wild guess of course. :p

Agree with Gabor.

These are about the worst bokeh conditions possible. :)
 
#1 looks zeiss-like to me, more for its color rendition than the bokeh. i have the zm 50/2, but don't torture it like this :angel:

i have not been using zeiss lenses long, but none of my ZM lenses have produced bokeh like either shot. maybe neither shot was taken with a zeiss.
 
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Dave Wilkinson said:
I prefer - shaken, not stirred!:rolleyes:
but as a serious answer to a silly question - IMO they are both equally vile.
Dave.
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Dear Dave,

Yes. I thought about it long and hard, now leaning towards #1, now towards #2, before coming to exactly the same conclusion.

To me, what these shots REALLY show is that once bokeh is obtrusive, the picture falls apart. I fully take the OP's point and applaud the exercise, but for me, it's yet another nail in the coffin for 'Here's my cat, look at the bokeh' pictures.

On the other point, stirred, not shaken. I hate watery martinis. Why on earth would Bond go for the wrong sort?

Cheers,

R.
 
I´ll play.. First, same settings in aperture & shutter speeds used in both shots? The second one looks overexposed compared to the first, but it could be just differences in each lens contrast. Second, the field of view looks like a 35mm lens was used to me, and because of the vignetting and the rounded circles in the OOF areas, I think the pictures were taken wide open in both cases.

I think the lenses are:

#1 35mm Nokton f1.4
#2 35mm Summilux pre-asph

The first picture has looks better exposed to my eyes, specially for the saturation. I prefer #2 lens OOF areas, remind me my Summar, it is not as "safe" as #1, but you can get interesting effects and I like surprisses :)
 
I like and dislike both. I like #2 rendition better, but I dislike the swirl. #1 looks harsher but more pleasing. Thus, a toss up for me.
 
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