HHPhoto
Well-known
Hi,
some positive news for BW and reversal film shooters:
Leading European professional Lab Photo Studio 13 in Germany is again extending their range of BW films for reversal development.
From ISO 20/14° up to ISO 800/30° there are now lots of different films with very good to excellent results in their modified Scala BW Reversal process. Pull and push option for several films, too.
Formats from 135 up to 8x10" sheet film.
Details:
http://www.photostudio13.de/news.html
http://www.photostudio13.de/fileadmin/storage/images/Scala_Informationen15.pdf
They do international shipment, by the way.
Quality and service are excellent.
Cheers, Jan
some positive news for BW and reversal film shooters:
Leading European professional Lab Photo Studio 13 in Germany is again extending their range of BW films for reversal development.
From ISO 20/14° up to ISO 800/30° there are now lots of different films with very good to excellent results in their modified Scala BW Reversal process. Pull and push option for several films, too.
Formats from 135 up to 8x10" sheet film.
Details:
http://www.photostudio13.de/news.html
http://www.photostudio13.de/fileadmin/storage/images/Scala_Informationen15.pdf
They do international shipment, by the way.
Quality and service are excellent.
Cheers, Jan
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
uhm ich kann nicht verstehen 
How do we develop it, do we have to send to Germany or can we do it ourselves here or can any local lab do it ?
The pdf says Scala alternatives ? but they list a bunch of standard films, where is the film they make ?
How do we develop it, do we have to send to Germany or can we do it ourselves here or can any local lab do it ?
The pdf says Scala alternatives ? but they list a bunch of standard films, where is the film they make ?
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
uhm ich kann nicht verstehen
How do we develop it, do we have to send to Germany
Yup. They are a lab, not a chemicals maker, and they can now accept some more standard black and white films into their Scala process (IIRC they so far only recommended Scala and Silvermax).
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
But I thought Scala wasn't sold anymore ? Ok so you can also send "regular" BW film and have it developed in reversal ? Sorry for the stupid questions
HHPhoto
Well-known
Hi,
1. Agfa Scala film (old stock, but cold stored) ist still available. E.G. at Fotoimpex (also international shipment).
2. Photo Studio 13 can process the following films (in alphabetical order) as BW reversal / slide film:
Adox CMS 20 II
Adox Silvermax
Agfa Scala 200X
Agfa Copex Rapid
Fomapan R
Ilford Delta 100 (120 and sheets)
Ilford Delta 400 (120)
Kodak T-Max 400 (120 and sheets)
Rollei RPX 25
Rollei Retro 80S
Rollei Superpan / Retro 400S / IR
Lots of different options for lots of different purposes and looks.
Cheers, Jan
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
Danke
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HHPhoto
Well-known
Sumolux
Established
And don't forget:
And don't forget:
ILFORD PAN F+
ILFORD FP4+
Can also be reversal developed for B/W slides..
And don't forget:
ILFORD PAN F+
ILFORD FP4+
Can also be reversal developed for B/W slides..
kxl
Social Documentary
Same/similar to the service that dr5 was providing?
http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/dr5chrome.html
http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/dr5chrome.html
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
kxl
Social Documentary
f16sunshine
Moderator
The DR5 B+W slides were beautiful. I sent them Rollei IR400 a couple times.
It's done though. I thik they quit this last spring (B+W slide service).
kxl
Social Documentary
Yup, although according to their website, they may be launching a new service sometime in the near future.
Spanik
Well-known
I don't understand the attraction of b&w slide film. I cannot see a point in projecting it and if you scan then there is no point in using the reversal development. And you're certainly not going to use it for wet printing.
So why? Serious question, give me a good reason. Scala could have been a reason as it was a conceived for that and very contrasty while still retaining a lot of grey. But the other films listed?
So why? Serious question, give me a good reason. Scala could have been a reason as it was a conceived for that and very contrasty while still retaining a lot of grey. But the other films listed?
f16sunshine
Moderator
It's a special look. If you ever look at a 6x9 DR5 slide on a light table you'll understand .
Or scan one for the first time.... it's a special look to be sure.
To be honest the digital Cameras from the last 5 years forward have sort of taken much of the allure. Digital was not always so good... it's easy to forget now.
I suppose the contrast and sharpness of a large film positive is less attractive now with hi-MP digital Cameras.
We can get a similar look without all the chemistry.
Corran
Well-known
Nah.
Regarding b&w positives, I'm experimenting with my own process. I want to use slides as finished "prints" inside backlit frames.
f16sunshine
Moderator
That sounds really cool. It's more of a specialty which is I suppose is another answer for why this process is still relevant.
HHPhoto
Well-known
Well, similar, more or less.....
I used dr5 in the past and was only partly satiesfied. Overdeveloped one film and a very unfriendly reaction from the owner. And problems with the customs because he had given wrong data on the package.
Photo Studio 13:
- very friendly people
- excellent service
- very fast
- very fair prices.
Cheers, Jan
HHPhoto
Well-known
HHPhoto
Well-known
If you ever had seen BW slides on a light table or projected on a screen you would have not asked.....
.BW slides are absolutely unique: Unique tonality, unique contrast, unique possibility to enlarge them by projecting at much higher factors than any print.
1. Tonality:
BW slides have a much different tonalilty than BW film prints or digital BW. It is not a question of better or worse, it is a matter of differentiation. You can add more tones to your photography.
2. Contrast:
Prints (silver-halide and inkjet) have a physical limit concerning their contrast range: 5 - 5,5 stops. More is not possible.
Not so with reversal film / slides (both colour and BW): Here you have a much bigger contrast range of 8-10 stops (depending on film and process).
Resulting in a much much better brillance of the picture. The slides have more brillant highlights and more deeper blacks than the print in comparison, and a wider tonal scale in between the highlights and deep blacks.
3. Projection:
Slide projection is unsurpassed concerning resolution, sharpness, brillance and tonality. Digital projection cannot compete at all in this regard, because the resolution of digital projectors is extremely low. The imaging chain in digital projection is very weak, the sensor resolution is destroyed by the much much lower resolution of the digital projector. And all digital projectors have also the general design flaw that in vertical direction the resolution is even about 40% less than in horizontal direction.
And they are extremely expensive.
Slide projectors, even new ones, are very cheap in comparison.
Projected BW slides are absolutely awesome, looking breathtakingly good. They are also a wonderful supplement to silver-halide BW prints.
4. Costs:
For those without an own darkroom or scanner, or those on a tight budget with not enough money for good lab prints or scans, BW slides are an excellent alternative because of their lower overall costs (same here as with colour slides).
Highest quality at lowest costs.
Cheers, Jan