Post your drum scans (aka the first official Drum Scanners thread)

After cleaning shadows are still noisy (focus cal, white cal, autofocus, levels applied in PS, Velvia).
 

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What is Color Trio? I couldn't find any info :) Margus - I do white cal every time :))

Here is my light alignment a bit shifted as you see but not too much ;)

Color Trio is a freeware software version from the makers of Color Quartet. Very stripped (8-bit only, no IT8) but has its advantages (simple, fast etc). It's just few megabytes.

PM me your e-mail and I can send you the file.
 
C-spanner key used for light tube admustmenet seems untypical - 120 degrees, 41mm? Can't find such.

You don't need to find, build yourself. C-spanners are among easiest to build by yourself or any metal workshop. With grinder it takes around 5 minutes to adapt it from some random stronger sheet of metal. It doesn't have to be exact radius, just enough to have the grip on the hole to tighten or loosen it.

You probably can use a regular motorcycle/moped/pro-bicycle suspension spring adjustment c-spanner. Got any motorcycling friends to ask for it? :)
 
Hi tsiklonaut

Nice photos (as always). I notice you process a lot of your scans quite dark. Is there a particular reason for that? Just curious...

Lovely to see your Honduras pics earlier in the thread. They brought back some fine memories of my visit there.
 
Hi tsiklonaut

Nice photos (as always). I notice you process a lot of your scans quite dark. Is there a particular reason for that? Just curious...

Finally, a good observation by someone! :)

It's a certain photographic philosophy for me to explore. Call it a spiritual "mysticism" of photography I've been into with my last scans and edits.

My statement or even a protest with those "low-key" E6s is that I'm now officially tired of fashionable HDR-trends of today, where every shadow detail must be fully visible and have also ugly-looking pulled highlights on the same picture - everything must be compressed in the middle, and worst of all - if you don't follow that trend you are not a real photographer.

Less is more and E6 works well for this particular philosophy.

IMHO, it's the dark shadows where human mind starts to dream.

When you spotmeter highlights into middle-gray areas you have a certain beauty presented on the picture, especially with the contrasty E6. I've tried this with digital with no luck having that "organic" looking tones I get with the E6.

Most of those scenes are spotmeterd with that in mind. Colors preserve purity when they are darker IMO. I intentionally do not level out my E6 scans to preserve that sort of 'low-key' tonality that gets your mind going when looking at it so to speak.

Anyways, this is the current "project" on philosophy of photography with E6. Since I'm an artist as well that may change someday in the future :D

Cheers,
Margus
 
E6 is designed for projection in dark room (Gamma 1.5) - perceptual reason so if you try open it up then can look washed out?
 
Light tube alignment does not make any difference :(

Try with Color Trio and try another bulb. If everything fails -

1) risk adjusting PMT yourself (with terminal program) with no guarantees or a permanent damage to PMT circutry.

2) Collect some 800-1200EUR and send it to ABC scan, Denmark. Then for sure you have 100% working scanners for years to come.

E6 is designed for projection in dark room (Gamma 1.5) - perceptual reason so if you try open it up then can look washed out?

Gamma is corractable, but yes, highlight spotmetered E6 will feel "washed out" when opened up with curves or levels. But when you've metered E6 in the middle it looks very decent and certainly not "washed out". But since E6 have very limited DR (5 f-stops or so), you'll have clipped highlights hence many pro E6 shooters use graduated ND filters. With all the nuances there's something in E6s that no other film or digital can do IMHO.

Margus
 
I'm waiting for ABC Scan response - at the moment out of office.

Negatives from the other hand - very low contrast when inverted from log domain. Look below on sample scan, do you see orange cast from film perforation? This sample was scanned also on Pacon F335 (with ICE) and it's clean.
 

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Negatives from the other hand - very low contrast when inverted from log domain. Look below on sample scan, do you see orange cast from film perforation? This sample was scanned also on Pacon F335 (with ICE) and it's clean.

Negatives HAVE to be very low contrast from linear scans. As I told many times it's about inverting technique to get the C41 "right".

Don't know about the cast you mention since it highly depends on your inverting technique. It could be a flawed inverting technique or a bad negative that ICE somehow corrected with the other scanner.

An example of C41:



Yellow by tsiklonaut, on Flickr

Cheers,
Margus
 
Be sure first the scanner must get the positives "right" since scanning C41 wouldn't be good if positive scanning isn't good (since you invert positives with C41). I.e. your shadow issues with the E6 means highlight issues with the C41. So get the scanner work for positives first.

Basically if you get nice E6 scans, you'll definitely have nice C41 scans with a solid and smart inversion technique.
 
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