sheel
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This one looks like it was scanned at smaller aperture than the later one.
Yes that’s right, aperture 1 was used on the prior drum scan. I typically scan at 3200 DPI and never bothered to truly test which aperture I like best - I assumed 1 would be best. My preference is for this last scan, which was set to aperture 3.
The smaller aperature also affected the color, giving a stronger yellow cast that I had to tune out. I have all the sample images saved and will write a blog post on it.
sheel
Member
I like Epson version more (have SM4000). Looks more like a slide. SM version has rised up midtones. Matter of taste of course. Usually I see more banding from SM in shadows some says it is "detail" or film grain - using underdeveloped slides for tests. I picked nice condition SM4000 - maybe finally find good unit for tuning. My method for negatives is scan as 8bits gamma 1.0 and invert in Photoshop using inverted log curve. Always perfect midtones.
Thanks!
Keep in mind I literally did about 2 minutes of work on this last scan from the SM5K vs the Epson scan, I may have spent 15-30 minutes in post processing; granted my PP skills are still growing.
The SM has taken a lot of work for me to get it up and running. But the quality is incredible. You’ll love your SM4K assuming it’s functioning. Otherwise get your whiskey and hammer out.
For this, I scanned 16 bit TIFF RGB (not RAW), the scanner was IT8 calibrated using an N3 chart. Then inverted and corrected white balance using the Color Perfect plugin for Photoshop 1.8 gamma on my Mac), minor levels adjust (barely deviated from linear), slight brightness/contrast adjustment, and a bit of sharpening using the high pass method.
jzagaja
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Color Quartet (CQ) has output profiles where you can set Gamma 1.0 (very dar image), alternatively you could use Gamma 3.0 which is very light image and approximates logarithimic response - then you need just simple invert CTRL+I and Levels. No need for plugin. TIFF 16bit is buggy in CQ. I would keep my SM for future writing new soft and hardware (Raspberry for example). Instead of PMT we could use LOG silicon sensors. Guys that design new film scanner here can help.
sheel
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Color Quartet (CQ) has output profiles where you can set Gamma 1.0 (very dar image), alternatively you could use Gamma 3.0 which is very light image and approximates logarithimic response - then you need just simple invert CTRL+I and Levels. No need for plugin. TIFF 16bit is buggy in CQ. I would keep my SM for future writing new soft and hardware (Raspberry for example). Instead of PMT we could use LOG silicon sensors. Guys that design new film scanner here can help.
Yes that would be awesome. I have tried to reverse engineer the CQ code but no real luck getting anything meaningful. I wish the abc guys would just open source the software since it’s buggy as hell, not kept up to date, and the guys have basically retired.
Btw i think you are referring to 16 bit RAW TIFF which is buggy. The RGB is stable. Also to clarify, the ColorPerfect plugin has conversion profiles for most modern films, which is what makes it valuable.
jzagaja
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SM has good colorimetry so no magic film profiles required. Ektar can have magenta tint easy to correct via levels mid slider. CIE L*a*b* is clean, try it. If image is too light add gamma (without slope limiting that Photoshop use from version 6 and up).
Netsoft2k
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Pumpkin Leaf on Film by Pali K, on Flickr
Mamiya RB67 ProS | Kodak Ektar 100
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal C41
Scanmate 11000 PMT Drumscanner
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Great Falls on Film by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45mm | Provia 100F
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
DKimg
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Netsoft2k
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Testing my 6x17 camera.

Gas Station 6x17 Test by Pali K, on Flickr

Untitled by Pali K, on Flickr

SM11K - K6x17V5 - 1st Test - C by Pali K, on Flickr

Gas Station 6x17 Test by Pali K, on Flickr

Untitled by Pali K, on Flickr

SM11K - K6x17V5 - 1st Test - C by Pali K, on Flickr
jzagaja
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share pictures of your camera please 
BTW: I could compare Scanmate 4000 (same as 5000) which is best of all models to Screen 1030Ai. Screen is better especially with heavily underexposed/developed slides like this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/104AMSmUmNuLq0NUeulo7Mv1i_AQBsJRw
BTW: I could compare Scanmate 4000 (same as 5000) which is best of all models to Screen 1030Ai. Screen is better especially with heavily underexposed/developed slides like this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/104AMSmUmNuLq0NUeulo7Mv1i_AQBsJRw
Netsoft2k
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That is an interesting comparison Jack. Good to know that Screen's are just as capable scanners.
There is a lot of pictures and info about my camera on this facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/K6x14Vx
There is a lot of pictures and info about my camera on this facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/K6x14Vx
Netsoft2k
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Netsoft2k
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I know others are using their beautiful drum scanners so don't be shy folks! Post your drum scans.
Here is me catching up since my last post. Hope you like them. These are from a mix of Tango and Scanmate 11000.

Fall on Ektachrome 100 by Pali K, on Flickr

Last light of the day by Pali K, on Flickr

The Lyric Pub by Pali K, on Flickr

London Eye and Country Hall by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

London XMas Lights by Pali K, on Flickr

London XMas Lights by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall Colors by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall Colors by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall 2018 on 4x5 Velvia by Pali K, on Flickr
Here is me catching up since my last post. Hope you like them. These are from a mix of Tango and Scanmate 11000.

Fall on Ektachrome 100 by Pali K, on Flickr

Last light of the day by Pali K, on Flickr

The Lyric Pub by Pali K, on Flickr

London Eye and Country Hall by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

Covent Garden London by Pali K, on Flickr

London XMas Lights by Pali K, on Flickr

London XMas Lights by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall Colors by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall Colors by Pali K, on Flickr

Fall 2018 on 4x5 Velvia by Pali K, on Flickr
James1
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Olympus 35RC, Lucky Arial Film @EI64, Orwo A49. Scanned on an Optronics ColorGetter Falcon.
Still don't have much time for photography, so I've contented myself by rescanning some older images.
This is Lucky Aerial Film, one of the oddest emulsions I have ever used. Shot at EI64 and developed in Orwo A49, it was very high contrast. Still, the image turned out OK, with nice enough detail:
Still don't have much time for photography, so I've contented myself by rescanning some older images.
This is Lucky Aerial Film, one of the oddest emulsions I have ever used. Shot at EI64 and developed in Orwo A49, it was very high contrast. Still, the image turned out OK, with nice enough detail:

Huss
Veteran
Just love the way all these pics look.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Agreed. Anyone have a recommendation for a place that will do 8x10 film drum scans?
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
https://www.michaelstricklandimages.com/drum-scanning-service/
Bob,
This fellow is a large format landscape photographer who does his own drum scans and offers scanning services on the side. The above is a link to the scanning service page on his site. I have not used him yet, so can’t offer a personal recommendation, but seemed solid and prices seemed more within my realm of possibility than some I have seen.
FWIW.
Bob,
This fellow is a large format landscape photographer who does his own drum scans and offers scanning services on the side. The above is a link to the scanning service page on his site. I have not used him yet, so can’t offer a personal recommendation, but seemed solid and prices seemed more within my realm of possibility than some I have seen.
FWIW.
James1
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[FONT="][FONT="]OrwoChrom UT20, Zenit E, Helios 44-2. Scanned on an Optronics ColorGetter drum scanner.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="]My parents-in-law gave me a very large box of slides and negatives when they moved house, and I was astonished to find a roll of OrwoChrom UT20 which had been exposed and processed some time over winter 1977/1978, but never cut into individual transparencies for mounting.[/FONT]
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This is a view of NYC, at the junction of W 42nd Street and 6th Avenue looking toward W 43rd Street.[/FONT][FONT="] The location looks very different now…
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[FONT="]My parents-in-law gave me a very large box of slides and negatives when they moved house, and I was astonished to find a roll of OrwoChrom UT20 which had been exposed and processed some time over winter 1977/1978, but never cut into individual transparencies for mounting.[/FONT]
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This is a view of NYC, at the junction of W 42nd Street and 6th Avenue looking toward W 43rd Street.[/FONT][FONT="] The location looks very different now…

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