kehng
Established
I guess people think the old version will be better than the new version.... or perhaps they just can't wait. This guys has sold 4 at this price!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Voigtlander-N..._Foto_Camcorder_Objektive&hash=item439fd0e87f
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Voigtlander-N..._Foto_Camcorder_Objektive&hash=item439fd0e87f
kehng
Established
Correction. He sold 4 at 849€ but now thinks they command a 336% price hike!
I'd say wishful thinking... but if version II comes out and sucks, I can see this lens getting very expensive.
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Great, I'd sell mine if it wil pay for a Leica 35/1.4 asph.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
They used to sell around $750-800, now they're up around $1,000 or so... Glad I got mine when I did (already modded for M8/9 and 6-bit even). I don't care what the new one does or doesn't do - I'm keeping mine.
The new one is shorter, but that's all I'm aware of that's different.
I thought, and perhaps I'm misinformed, that the old one was discontinued due to parts being unavailable. If that's true, then the formula may be different.
kehng
Established
Hmmm... Certainly looks like the old 35mm 1.2 may be worth hanging on to at this stage. I think Double Neg's worry of the VII acting more like the 50 1.1 is probably the biggest worry with the new version based on the blurb he found. Although TBH I've actually found the 1.1 produces shots I'm happy with more often than not.
Leica All Day
Veteran
"We would like to draw your attention that the aspherical lens element used for Nokton F1.2/35mm is no more available and due to this we had to decide the discontinuation of this model because we can not produce. Now we are working on to develop modified Nokton F1.2/35mm Type-II using new type of aspherical lens. We aim to start the shipping of Type-II version from early summer in 2011. Please note that discontinued model has been out of stock. So we would like to ask you to do without 1.2/35mm till modified Type-II is produced."
now that is very interesting......looks like the Type-II version will be out soon......looking forward to seeing some photos......I wonder if our good friend Tom A. has one.......
cheers, michael
now that is very interesting......looks like the Type-II version will be out soon......looking forward to seeing some photos......I wonder if our good friend Tom A. has one.......
cheers, michael
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maddoc
... likes film again.
We in the USA have heard little out of Japan in the recent weeks. It seems the news organizations have new stories to tell such as the flooding of the Mississippi River and the bin Laden thing. I would appreciate timely updates for the nuclear energy electricity plants, which have an overall impact on all of Japan.
A small update ... 14000 tons of highest radioactive contaminated water used to cool down #1 reactor has leaked into somewhere through a couple centimeters large hole in the pressurized vessel and is continuing to do so.
Chubu-electric company was forced by govt to shut down the last of the Hamaoka power plant reactors in Chubu, TEPCO is facing a one billion dollar loss for compensation payments and additional one billion to buy conventional fuel for electricity production, still >11000 live in shelters as there are no new homes for them available and today was again a little stronger earthquake.
Otherwise we are fine since govt. told us to use air-con in hot summer only if absolutely necessary.
Leica All Day
Veteran
Thanks for the update maddoc (Gabor).....doesn't sound too good for you guys.......I wish everybody over there the best of luck........
cheers, michael
cheers, michael
maddoc
... likes film again.
I did not hear of any restrictions placed on industrial production yet but a very powerful director of a large Japanese research center has already made clear that his institution must not be influenced by any power shortages. That "institution" has the size of a city. So it looks like that the decision who will be affected and who not has already been done.
If there is no direct impact on industrial production by power shortages, I see an indirect one by limitations of public transportation and over-exhausted employees. JR and private companies have reduced the amount of operating trains (also switched of lights inside of trains, in stations, stopped escalators etc. ), making it harder to communicate. The other big problem especially in central Tokyo will be the largely reduced amount of air-conditioning capacity in private and public areas.
If there is no direct impact on industrial production by power shortages, I see an indirect one by limitations of public transportation and over-exhausted employees. JR and private companies have reduced the amount of operating trains (also switched of lights inside of trains, in stations, stopped escalators etc. ), making it harder to communicate. The other big problem especially in central Tokyo will be the largely reduced amount of air-conditioning capacity in private and public areas.
maddoc
... likes film again.
The most recent news from TEPCO are that the meltdown of the fuel rods in #1 already happened 16 hours after the earthquake / tsunami event.
According to my knowledge this means that there was sufficient time to get an substantial amount of Pu and other radioactive isotopes by nearly unhindered fission processes and these fission products were washed out through the pressure vessel leak in the following cooling attempts and also the hydrogen explosion. It would reasonably explain why there have been traces of Pu detected around #1.
Most of the produced radioactive material are the biological active I, Cs, and Sr isotopes. Of the Iodine isotopes, the one produced in the highest amount has a short half life time of 6 days (from memory only !). Most radioactivity will have vanished within one year. Trouble maker are the alpha and beta emitter accidentally inhaled or taken in by food.
Alpha / beta particle buried in food can not be detected by a normal Geiger counter since the radiation is adsorbed inside the material in cm-range. The sample needs to be pyrolyzed and then traces of alpha and beta radiations are detectable.
At the power plant itself, one worker 60 - 70 years old has died already from exhaustion and one worker erroneously been assigned to clean up the mess inside a reactor building without any knowledge about radiation and not wearing a dosimeter for 4 four days. He had applied for a job as truck driver there ...
]quote=JSU;1622094]Highest radioactive is serious, but an equally important issue is the half life of the material.[/quote]
According to my knowledge this means that there was sufficient time to get an substantial amount of Pu and other radioactive isotopes by nearly unhindered fission processes and these fission products were washed out through the pressure vessel leak in the following cooling attempts and also the hydrogen explosion. It would reasonably explain why there have been traces of Pu detected around #1.
Most of the produced radioactive material are the biological active I, Cs, and Sr isotopes. Of the Iodine isotopes, the one produced in the highest amount has a short half life time of 6 days (from memory only !). Most radioactivity will have vanished within one year. Trouble maker are the alpha and beta emitter accidentally inhaled or taken in by food.
Alpha / beta particle buried in food can not be detected by a normal Geiger counter since the radiation is adsorbed inside the material in cm-range. The sample needs to be pyrolyzed and then traces of alpha and beta radiations are detectable.
At the power plant itself, one worker 60 - 70 years old has died already from exhaustion and one worker erroneously been assigned to clean up the mess inside a reactor building without any knowledge about radiation and not wearing a dosimeter for 4 four days. He had applied for a job as truck driver there ...
]quote=JSU;1622094]Highest radioactive is serious, but an equally important issue is the half life of the material.[/quote]
noimmunity
scratch my niche
On april 29, the former head of the Japanese Institute of Nuclear Technology and currently its oldest supervisor, M. Ishikawa, stated on Asahi TV that the core had most certainly gone into meltdown and that the situation was much more serious than any public reports from either TEPCO or the government would acknowledge. Stunned by this admiission, the journalist running the talk show interrupted Ishikawa, "Wait a minute! We expect you to tell us that everything is okay!" To which Ishikawa, a long time proponent of nuclear power in Japan, replied, "only if I am authorized to lie." Experts in France have commented that by virtue of the design in the Fukushima plants, in the event of meltdown it would be impossible, unlike Chernobyl, to cordon off the core and prevent it from descending into the earth (the so-called "China syndrome"). So there is a high probability that some or all of the radioactive material has by now seeped into the aquifers below the plant, with potentially serious long term ramifications for waters in and around Japan, including the Pacific Ocean. Since it has been up to now impossible to enter the crippled reactor housing, it is impossible to verify the extent of the meltdown.
Ishikawa's televised interview has been widely circulated on Youtube, and I think there are translation/summaries in both English and French.
About one month prior to Ishikawa's statement, Reuters news service reported that Representative Edward Markey had been briefed by the NRC in the United States that the core of at least one of the reactors at Fukushima had gone into total meltdown. The story however was kept out of the mainstream press, and several weeks later became unavailable on Reuters' own web site. TEPCO's own estimation is that only 30% of the fuel rods in one reactor have gone into meltdown.
Ishikawa's televised interview has been widely circulated on Youtube, and I think there are translation/summaries in both English and French.
About one month prior to Ishikawa's statement, Reuters news service reported that Representative Edward Markey had been briefed by the NRC in the United States that the core of at least one of the reactors at Fukushima had gone into total meltdown. The story however was kept out of the mainstream press, and several weeks later became unavailable on Reuters' own web site. TEPCO's own estimation is that only 30% of the fuel rods in one reactor have gone into meltdown.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Correction. He sold 4 at 849€ but now thinks they command a 336% price hike!
I can't believe anyone would have the gall to ask $4000.00 USD for a 1.2 Nokton!
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
I can't believe anyone would have the gall to ask $4000.00 USD for a 1.2 Nokton!![]()
I imagine the seller had this lens to lens conversation in their head when listing the price.
Summilux calls and says; "Hey Nokton, it's me, you win!"
Mister E
Well-known
The Noctilux used to be this cheap as well. The new Voigtlander lens is the exactly same everything with just a slightly updated body. Pictures out of it are going to look the same as they did before.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
The Noctilux used to be this cheap as well. The new Voigtlander lens is the exactly same everything with just a slightly updated body. Pictures out of it are going to look the same as they did before.
I thought Cosina stated that the glass used in the aspherical element was no longer available and this necessitated the change. Presumably something inside the body has changed as well, or am I missing something?
Mister E
Well-known
I thought Cosina stated that the glass used in the aspherical element was no longer available and this necessitated the change. Presumably something inside the body has changed as well, or am I missing something?
Cosina makes their own glass. AFAIK none of the II Voigtlander lenses have had any optical reworks, why would they start now?
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