Primo JR 127 TLR

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Anything you can do, I can do better!
That seemed to be the thinking of the Japanese camera industry in the post-war era. In this case, we have the little Rollei copy - the Tokyo Kogaku made Primo Jr 127 Twin Lens Reflex with a great Topcor f2.8 lens.

It was a winding path that led me to the Primo and I documented that path in the "Love my Baby - Rolleiflex 4x4" thread -https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162171

Really great to see all the interest and contributions of photographers from all over the world that share a love of the Baby Rollei. My opinion is that the 127 roll film TLR has some significant advantages - namely it's compact size and great image quality potential with a negative right between 35mm and 120. Obviously the big drawback is film avalibility - which means expensive, limited and/or expired stock... but you already know all that🙂

The Primo is a fun side-ways move from the Rollei - different in a few ways but not necessarily better ( I prefer it, though😉. I like the lever wind, the faster lens and shutter controls a bit better than the Rollei.

I like to have threads here on RFF as a place to track my use of different camera systems and just had several rolls processed from the Primo - so, without further introduction, here's the camera itself and a few images from the last several rolls:

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Are you still sending your film to The Darkroom? I wasn't sure if they were still doing 127.... Their website makes no mention that 127 is still an option, although 127 still exists as an option on the order form.


The last C-41 I shot, I sent to Old School Photo Lab in New Hampshire. The results weren't quite as nice as I was getting from The Darkroom, but that may have been due to the camera I was using at the time. I need to use a "better" camera and give them another try!
 
Are you still sending your film to The Darkroom? I wasn't sure if they were still doing 127.... Their website makes no mention that 127 is still an option, although 127 still exists as an option on the order form.


The last C-41 I shot, I sent to Old School Photo Lab in New Hampshire. The results weren't quite as nice as I was getting from The Darkroom, but that may have been due to the camera I was using at the time. I need to use a "better" camera and give them another try!

They still do 127 - no problem - It's still on the paper order forms - and they always return the spools - these shot were all Vericolor 200 speed shot at 100.
 
Are you still sending your film to The Darkroom? I wasn't sure if they were still doing 127.... Their website makes no mention that 127 is still an option, although 127 still exists as an option on the order form.


The last C-41 I shot, I sent to Old School Photo Lab in New Hampshire. The results weren't quite as nice as I was getting from The Darkroom, but that may have been due to the camera I was using at the time. I need to use a "better" camera and give them another try!


I've got two rolls of 127 slide film at The Darkroom right now being processed. First time I've sent them any but I asked before I sent it, and it's fine, but they do charge extra for 127.


I hope they do send my spools back.
 
Yes, I was using them for a couple years, including 3-4 rolls of Provia slide film, which was beautiful. Then they processed the next roll in C-41 processing by mistake, and the next roll after that came back covered with black spots which looked like they'd opened a pepper shaker over the film while it was still wet. If that wasn't enough, that roll was also scanned out of focus. I finally decided to "scan" them myself using the DSLR like I do with B&W negatives, and I spent a lot of time "erasing" the black spots with the retouch brush.



It's probably time to give them another try though.
 
These are nice cameras, indeed. Mine is the Sawyer's branded version; really a pleasure to use. Mine, unfortunately, isn't focusing properly and I'm going to need to adjust the rear element of the taking lens to get it corrected. Once I get that sorted I expect it to outperform my Yashica 44.
 
I have a few spools and have recently been looking into cutting and spooling 120 to 127 myself, but I do need to find a Primo or a Sawyer first... Preferably UK or EU. Home developing and camera scanning is what I do for all my other films already
 
I bought a Sawyer's Mark IV as well... but the internal surface of the taking lens is very cloudy. Tried to fix it myself and it's now in pieces in the cupboard🙁 Oh well, it was a cheap experiment.

Here are several more from the summer of 2020 with the Primo JR -

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Neighborhood fire back in April - everyone walked over to check it out🙄
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Waldport Oregon June 2020
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Near Vantage WA June 2020
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I've got the reverse situation going on. I killed one Primo Jr trying to remove the haze on the inner element of the lens, I have another Primo Jr. that is not as hazy, but the focusing rack is a little wobbly. My Sawyer's Mark IV is the one that's in great shape, lens is clear, shutter working great (after I cleaned the shutter leaves) and not a mark on it.
 
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These were taken with my Primo Jr with the very hazy rear lens element. I should have some slide shots from the other two by monday coming back from The Darkroom. I'm not sure how the slightly hazy lens on the other Primo will measure up to the Sawyer's Mark IV which has a nice clean lens.
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