Purpose of RFF?

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I don't know how to post POLLS and I think that folks have grown weary of them.

So I'll just ask for a response.

I thought the main purpose of RFF was to provide a site where we could display our picture taking efforts.

The other purposes that I think are important are providing a means to exchange info regarding the care and use of our gear, ideas and advice on processing film (or PS images) etc., selling/buying w/in the "community" and so forth.

Instead, too often as far as I can determine, this site acts as a "ranting station" for folks to polemicize on things like "Film is Dead" or a particular piece of gear is "proletarian" (or conversely, "dilletantish").

Tonight we even have a "poll" asking us our opinion of how long film will last with the original poster gloating that it will "add fuel to the fire"!

Why are we doing this to ourselves?

My "peeve" tonight is that the Gallery is screwed up. I went out in the dead of winter and took some pics that I would like to share with folks and cannot do that!

I am pissed about it. I think the Gallery is a hell of a lot more important to this site than another damned poll!

Whew - time to take a deep breath!
 
actually jorge started the forum first and then later, he added a gallery.

and i think if you meant what you just ranted then you would have contacted jorge directly and not added to what you say you dislike about this place.

george, you can always start your own site and be king there!
joe
 
There have been so many polls that I had to stop myself from posting one a few days ago, because it was going to be stupid. I hope you can see where I'm coming from. Anyway, I spend about 60% of my time here in the galleries. Interesting stuff, including your portable toilet photo. I'm sorry I never posted a comment on it. 😀
 
back alley said:
actually jorge started the forum first and then later, he added a gallery.

and i think if you meant what you just ranted then you would have contacted jorge directly and not added to what you say you dislike about this place.

george, you can always start your own site and be king there!
joe
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Joe,

It's not a matter of being "king".

But we here engage in a visual art and now we cannot display/exchange images.

The POLL element of this site is working fine. Too bad the Gallery isn't.
 
i am getting tired of the whining.
you post a rant about how this place is turning into a forum of ranters.
make sense?
not to me.
the site has been slow.
jorge is moving it to a new server.
more whining cause we can't post pics while that happens.

geez.
 
I pretty much ignore the polls. I like the gallery, and will spend more time there like Frank does, but it'll likely work fine tomorrow, so I think Ill go to bed. After I look at my cameras, eh?
 
back alley said:
i am getting tired of the whining.
you post a rant about how this place is turning into a forum of ranters.
make sense?
not to me.
the site has been slow.
jorge is moving it to a new server.
more whining cause we can't post pics while that happens.

geez.
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I guess a rant is in the eye of the reader.

Some while back one of the "originals" on this site (Frank S?) made a comment that I took to heart!

He said that whenever he sees somone "rant" he checks the Gallery to see how much they actually shoot and post.

At the time, I had just gotten my RF gear and was still trying to figure out my scanner etc. But I'd already been an "alligator" here (all mouth - no ears).

I felt properly chagrined and resolved to "get with it" and shoot and post.

Now it is my favorite part of this site - and tonight (and for how long since my last upload on 2/15) it is down!

I spent nearly an hour with some new pics, doing my usual minimal PS'ng etc. (mainly saving down into JPEG since I scan in RAW) and find I cannot now share my pics.

I do not think I am ranting. I think I am making a legitimate observation that the PURPOSE of this site is not to engage in "debate" but to share our art!
 
It's free. You don't pay anything to access it. The gallery is free, you get free webspace to put up your stuff and show other people. When it goes down, remember how much the access fee is.

I've always been of the opinion that the best way to influence a forum is to set a good example for the other posters. It's easy to access a forum as an outsider and determine what its general "tone" is - photo.net's leica forum tone, for example, is quite acerbic and volatile. Anybody can see that by reading through a day's worth of posts. If you want our forum to be full of high-quality, informational posts, and NOT an acerbic and volatile place for people to publically display their friction with other members, then perhaps you should think twice before publicly posting aggressive or inflammatory comments, for example, or by opting to post useful content instead of introspective navel gazing that other people might perceive as whiny.

I can't even count the number of times that I've written out an articulate, well-supported rebuttal to somebody's dumb comment, only to close the window and forget about it. There is no thing in any internet forum posted by any member that is worth losing sleep over. The wide world of photographable things awaits you and your camera, so pick up, get outside, and be happy!
 
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back alley said:
george,

you have been all over this forum complaining about the gallery tonight.
addressing comments to the 'real shooters' out there.

this is a campaign not a complaint.
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Joe,

I'm not "complaining" about the Gallery! I am "concerned" about it.

Read some of the other posts here. For some of us (maybe many) it is a very important aspect of the site!

This isn't a criticism of Jorge or you - I know both of you are doing your damndest to make this a great place to be.

This is a concern. I'm simply hoping that to whatever extent the two of you can do so, you will "fix" the Gallery upload. It's important to me and I think others that we get to share our pics.

Okay? 'nuff said.

I'll try uploading again tomorrow night.....
 
i'm not feeling criticized george.

and i already know the gallery is important.
and this is already a great place to be.

and your 'concern' did not start out as a concern...'I am pissed about it. I think the Gallery is a hell of a lot more important to this site than another damned poll!'

you are trying to control what others are to see as important.
if people want a friggin poll let 'em poll.

don't answer the question if you really don't like polls.

and it's not about the polls...the place is for all who wish to come here and participate in a friendly manner.
and tonight your post was not friendly, it was accusatory and whiny and an attempt at control.

ok, that's it. my heart is racing and i'm taking a break...
joe
 
rather disingenuous of you, George, to start a thread with a title like this, include a post wrapped in a bogus concern, just to b*tch and get attention about your problem with the gallery.
I remember jenni posting a REAL concern about RFF, and getting nothing but lame humor, and feigned ignorance as a response.

Good luck with your gallery problem (what gallery problem ?).




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I've only been a member here a few months but even in that short time RFF has changed significantly. And I hope it will continue to change I'd get bored if it didn't. If I get tired of 'film is dead' b.s. I go get caught up with the what's in the gallery. Man, this is way better then T.V.
 
copake_ham said:
The other purposes that I think are important are providing a means to exchange info regarding the care and use of our gear, ideas and advice on processing film (or PS images) etc., selling/buying w/in the "community" and so forth.

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To me, this is what RFF is all about. There are many websites where one may display their photos for others to view, but the discussions here are (supposed to be) relatively narrow in scope, discussing rangefinders and whatever ancillary subjects apply.
I apologize for being blunt, George, but your post does indeed sound like a rant. And, more often than not, it is my impression that rants are originated by members, that for want of a better term, are "loud"---- lots of posts in a relatively short time--- those who, in 10 or 12 months of activity here have 1,600 posts, many of them complaints, and some seemingly combative. Who could have so much worthwhile to say? Better to listen mostly, and speak when necessary. Be calm, be smart. As the wise saying goes, better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, rather than to open one's mouth and confirm it.
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I take an hour getting home from work and all hell breaks loose ... the things I miss in transit.

George,

While RFF has polls, rants and discussions regarding the possible eventual demise of film Likely not before the demise of most of us here today), there are a lot of other subjects that are the topic of discussion on this board.
Questions are asked about camera lens combinations, people ask for opinions on equipment they're interested in buying, and others might be seeking help with a film developer combination.
As for picture posting, there are examples of RFFers trying to get others to shoot more ... raid's March euipment buying moratorium and Stephanie's 5 pics a week for the month as examples.
As for the gallery problems on Thursday, my assumption is that it likely stems from the server shuffle.
Anyway ... there's a lot of what you appear to be looking for here, but like any community there's a few things you probably could give a rat's posterior about as well.

Cheers,
Peter
 
I agree with Back Alley 100%.

If you don't like threads about film being dead, then don't read them. RFF makes that very easy to do with it's well divided forums. I, for example, despise polls. So I don't read them. People enjoy talking the same issues to death. They also enjoy talking about their favorite beers and asking the same lens questions over and over. If the site owner and forum moderators decide to allow these discussions, who are you to tell people that they can’t have what they enjoy?

You sound like one if the shills I have had to deal with WAY to many times as a moderator on another photography website. Learn some tact and bring up issues like this in private first. Particularly when posting your "issue" makes you look like a hypocritical fool.

And as for having images in the gallery being some sort of a requirement before someone is "worthy"; the day that I need validation for my photography from random internet forum posters is the day I stop shooting.
 
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RayPA said:
rather disingenuous of you, George, to start a thread with a title like this, include a post wrapped in a bogus concern, just to b*tch and get attention about your problem with the gallery.
I remember jenni posting a REAL concern about RFF, and getting nothing but lame humor, and feigned ignorance as a response.

Good luck with your gallery problem (what gallery problem ?).





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Have you tried to upload tonight?
 
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