Puts on the Zeiss ikon

[Huck Finn]

Huck, thanks for digging deep for more ZI info! How have you been liking your ZI?

Way

Way, I couldn't be happier. 🙂 Focus routinely just snaps into place. I added a 35/2 Biogon a few weeks ago, courtesy of Kyle, & have been enjoying shooting with that lately. As the days grow longer, there should be better shooting opportunities than there have been. I've been especially happy with the AE, which I've been using a lot because it's so often right on the money.

Thanks for asking.

Huck

 

[back alley]

huck,
do you compensate with the ae or just shoot at it's recommendation?

joe

 

[Huck Finn]

Joe, I've been shooting at its recommendation & have been pleased with the results. this has been helpful for family shots when people are moving around & I'm trying to get "grab" shots & don't have time to fiddle. Regardless, I really wanted to use the AE for a while to see how good it is. With better weather, things may change as I take more shots that I have time to set up.

BTW, I hope that the report from Zeiss offers some reassurance on the long term stability of the rangefinder mechanism after your early bad experience with misalignment. I think yours was a fluke. This occasionally happens even with a Leica, as can be seen by reading the posts on their site. It's also nice to see that the Zeiss folks reply to us customers when we have a question. I recommend it for anyone who needs their heop or support - or who just wants to register an opinion.

Huck

 

[back alley]

the more i use the camera the more i like it. the lens is so very smooth to focus.
i still have not developed any of the film used so far.
my very bad.

 

[Way]

Huck - Glad to hear that you like the ZI so much. I too find the metering very good and
love the vf and focusing. It appears that I'm having greater success focusing my 90 cron
on the ZI than my MP (.72). I may spring for some Zeiss glass in the future! I'd love to
try the 35 and 50.

Joe - Hope you develop your film soon!

Way

 

[Mazurka]

He said that they want Leica to be successful. Many of them own Leica equipment & have great respect for the work that is done there. I suspect that they know a great deal about Leica cameras & lenses.

Thanks Huck, for posting a very informative reply from Zeiss --- yet again. These things should have a permanent home on the net as archived reference. Perhaps ZeissFan can host them?

It's really no surprise that Zeiss has studied the Leica M closely in developing the ZI. After all, how else could you improve an existing design? All the more amazing that they can keep the price at a fraction of the Leica, cosidering the relative costs/complexities of the ZI and M7/MP rangefinders.

It's also natural that Zeiss doesn't want Leica to go the way of the dodo. The ZI series are all the more attractive in light of Solms' pricing. Besides, what's the fun if there is no competition? Look at Michelin who is pulling out of F1 because of the single tire-manufacturer rule.

Last but not least, Zeiss might have people who don't want the almost century-long rivalry to end with the opponent's passing. 😉

 

[Huck Finn]

Thanks Huck, for posting a very informative reply from Zeiss --- yet again. These things should have a permanent home on the net as archived reference. Perhaps ZeissFan can host them?

I will contact Mike to see if he's interested. What would you like to see archived? Thanks for the appreciations. 🙂

Huck

 

[Michiel Fokkema]

I don't know him,

Bill Mattocks

Well,

I actually do know him and have met him several times.
He is one of the kindest people I know. He is very knowlegdable and always open for discussion. As far as I know al that he writes is about equipment he really has tested himself. He is one of the few testers whose opinion I trust and rely on.

Best regards,

Michiel Fokkema

 

[Michiel Fokkema]

Actually Erwin is NOT a professional writer. He has a normal daytime job. I don't think he makes a lot of money. His best sold book is published by Hove. Hove doesn't pay any roalties because they are close to bankrupcy. Don't state things as true if you didn't check them.

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

 

[Michiel Fokkema]

I think Erwin falls into a trap that most Dutch do. It's not a limited vocabulary that is the problem. It's the abundance of multiple subordinate clauses in his sentences. That is, sentences built up of smaller sentences separated by commas.

Liberal use of the 'bijzin' is natural to the Dutch. It's less appropriate in English, where it's mostly limited to one clause. Many Dutch would consider him eloquent, well able to construct a valid reasoning, and wouldn't notice anything odd in his writings. As for the rest of the world.... 'It is me what!' 😉

Hi,
Never thought about that but sounds logic to me.
If I read articles of Erwin in a Dutch Camera magazine I have no problems at all with the way he writes. Neither do I when I read him in English. But when I compare his English writings to the writings of native English writers I can see their point.
Being English by coincedence the language we have to communicate in, I think the native speakers should give us a break. Otherwise we will be forced to change the language on this forum to Dutch. 🙂

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

 

[rover]

...Being English by coincedence the language we have to communicate in, I think the native speakers should give us a break. Otherwise we will be forced to change the language on this forum to Dutch. 🙂

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

I have enough trouble with English after 40 years of practice, please don't make me change now.

 

[Palaeoboy]

"Actually Erwin is NOT a professional writer."

Sorry but he is. If you write and sign a contract to gain royalties you are considered a paid writer. Just that he has another job is irrelevent. I think most writers do actually.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

A paid writer is not necessarily a professional writer. I doubt Alan Greenspan is a professional writer.

What Mr. Puts needs is a good editor, that's all.

 

[Huck Finn]

Actually Erwin is NOT a professional writer. He has a normal daytime job. I don't think he makes a lot of money. His best sold book is published by Hove. Hove doesn't pay any roalties because they are close to bankrupcy. Don't state things as true if you didn't check them.

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

Thanks for the correction, Michael.

I like Erwin's work & don't mean to demean him. I happened to disagree with a few of his points this time.

It speaks well of you that as someone who knows him, you have come to his defense. We should all have friends like you. 😎

Huck

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Bill I'm with you so far, but please consider that some 5.8 billion people don't know words from yiddish origin and how they are used in the US.

For me Putz is part of "Hausputz" as in "cleaning your house", Putz may be a womans hat or hairdress in german as used up to the 1950s or 60s. If you dress in your best cloth, shine your shoes and get your fingernails clean to go to church on sunday, you are "herausgeputzt".

Putz is plaster, too.

So it took me some time on photo.net to understand why this is insulting and not just a misspelling.

And to Erwin Puts himself, as long as he doesn't write about motorcycles ....

Ich bin kein ... err ... alone!

Anyway, yes. Could we just let this horse go? Horsie? Mr. Horsie? You can get up now and go. Hello?

 

[jlw]

"This horsie is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-HORSIE!!"

-- pirated liberally from lines originally spoken by John Cleese...

 

[bmattock]

"This horsie is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-HORSIE!!"

-- pirated liberally from lines originally spoken by John Cleese...

"Nah, he's merely stunned. Beautiful horse, the Norwegian Blue. Lovely plumage.

We had to nail him to the perch. If we hadn't, he'd have muscled up to the bars, bent them open with his beak, and VOOM!"

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks