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what happens when both the camera body and the lens have image stabilization?
what happens when both the camera body and the lens have image stabilization?
retinax
Well-known
Trouble happens, something that looks like camera shake. One of them needs to be turned off. The manuals typically point that out.
AlwaysOnAuto
Well-known
That's not true with Sony A7 series cameras that have IBIS.
In camera IBIS gives 3-axis stabilization. Adding a lens with which has it also, increases it to 5-axis.
In camera IBIS gives 3-axis stabilization. Adding a lens with which has it also, increases it to 5-axis.
agentlossing
Well-known
Depends on the system. Both Olympus and Panasonic have dual-IS systems that use both in concert to further improve the stabilization effect. Panasonic's is more robust and applies to more lenses, but they have more lenses with IS than Olympus does.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Similar is true for Fuji system. Lens rental.com has at least one article explaining that when Fuji’s in-camera IBIS is turned on, and an OIS lens is attached, the camera’s computer assigns some of the movement chores to IBIS and others to OIS.
I experienced trouble when I used the 16-80mm with the X-H1. Just like Retinax described. Both worked separately well though...
retinax
Well-known
I may be behind the times as the camera and lens with IS I had and the manuals of which I read were new 12 years or so ago.
I may be behind the times as the camera and lens with IS I had and the manuals of which I read were new 12 years or so ago.
And in all fairness this combo I was writing about had known issues but other ois/ibis combos didn’t
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
I think I read that in the Fujis they fight each other. Turn off the body IS was recommended.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Reading through my X-T4 manual, it seems to say that if a lens with OIS is mounted, and its OIS switch is turned on, then OIS "takes priority" over IBIS. There's no warning that the two systems would fight against each other. And there's no mention that the two systems' effects would be additive.
This applies to the X-H1, it should apply to the X-T4 and X-S10 also.
https://fujifilm-x.com/global/products/cameras/x-h1/feature-firmware/
In-body image stabilization and optical image stabilization now work together to improve overall stability
With an XF or XC optical image stabilized lens, in-body image stabilization worked with 3 axis (up and down / optical axis rotation). The remaining 2 axis (right and left pitch, yaw angle) was controlled by optical image stabilization in the lens. This firmware has a new image stabilization algorithm to allow the in-body image stabilization to work in all 5 axis and to achieve more than five-stops (up to the equivalent of 5.5 stops*1) image stabilization by cooperative control according to the types of frequency and blur amount.
To activate this function, lenses are necessary to be updated to latest firmware version.
Also:
https://dl.fujifilm-x.com/global/products/cameras/x-h1/pdf/Cooperative_control.pdf
https://fujifilm-x.com/global/products/cameras/x-h1/feature-firmware/
In-body image stabilization and optical image stabilization now work together to improve overall stability
With an XF or XC optical image stabilized lens, in-body image stabilization worked with 3 axis (up and down / optical axis rotation). The remaining 2 axis (right and left pitch, yaw angle) was controlled by optical image stabilization in the lens. This firmware has a new image stabilization algorithm to allow the in-body image stabilization to work in all 5 axis and to achieve more than five-stops (up to the equivalent of 5.5 stops*1) image stabilization by cooperative control according to the types of frequency and blur amount.
To activate this function, lenses are necessary to be updated to latest firmware version.
Also:
https://dl.fujifilm-x.com/global/products/cameras/x-h1/pdf/Cooperative_control.pdf
d__b
Well-known
Canon's latest full frame mirrorless also combine lens and sensor stabilisation for maximum effect. In fact you can't turn them off/on separately. You either use both (if your lens has IS) or neither.
raid
Dad Photographer
These IS systems are very impressive.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
It just firmware communications with one more thing added in lens and camera fw. So, it depends how old camera is at least. I don't think my E-PL1 IBIS is going to work with some odd branded zoom's OS.
They would have to release new fw at both ends.
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