Question for owners of W.Acall 35/3.5 (and similar)

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I recently picked up one of these little lenses after looking for a while. Mine came without the original hood, which I would like to try to replicate as near as possible with generic parts (I tried a conical 34mm screw-in hood I had here, but it vignettes significantly). If someone who has the original hood would be kind enough to measure the outside diameter and depth of the hood, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
Outside Diameter: 51mm 2.047" 2 1/32"
Depth: 16mm .625" 5/8"

The hood works well on my Canon 28/3.5 ltm. I originally bought the lens kit from Olden Camera for $17.50. In 1967. The lens was damaged when I dropped it on a concrete floor at Mosport sometime in the 1970's.
 
That's perfect - thanks. Now to ebay to see what I can cobble together.

Shame about your lens. I've only just gotten mine, but I'm anxious to see what it can do.
 
Thanks, Johan - I've looked at that chart several times over the course of my search for one of these lenses at a price I was willing and able to pay (I was looking for either the 35/3.5 or 35/2.8). I finally snagged this one a few weeks ago and I'm quite pleased with it. Thanks for putting the list together - it's a great reference.
 
If you are located in some place that's easy for me to mail to, I may have something for you. This is why I like people to fill out their profiles---now I'm faced with having made an offer I may choose to back out of when I find out where you live. If I can't throw it in the box at the corner, I'm not going to the post office (that means you need to be in the US, basically).
 
A quick update to this thread for those interested in the minutia of these lenses. In response to my lens hood inquiry, mdarnton very generously sent me a W.Komura 35/3.5 lens that had some significant issues, along with a hood that did not, and was thus perfect for my W.Acall (thanks again!).

On a lark, I decided to pull the Komura apart and see what was going on. Before I even turned a screw, I noticed some differences between it and the Acall. The former has no click-stops in the aperture, but the latter does. The scalloping on the barrel is different, with the Acall having wider radiused gaps between the raised portions, while the Komura has more tightly-spaced sections with sharp 90deg transitions between them. The ring securing the optical block to the barrel is also different.

Once apart, I cleaned everything and replaced some missing and damaged screws, which resolved the problems with one notable exception: separation between two of the elements. I have no intention of trying to fix that, and a quick test on my X-E1 suggests it won't make much difference in any case (even straight into the light, there's no visible effect). What was surprising about this phase of the operation, however, was that I discovered that the lens is in fact a Double Gauss arrangement, apparently six elements in four groups, not the Tessar variant (4/3) that I had expected (and I believe I had read somewhere, but I can't recall the source). This helps to explain the excellent performance of these lenses. I haven't pulled the Acall apart to see if it shares this optical arrangement, but I strongly suspect it does.
 
Sorry about your difficulty selling the Kinegon - given the quality of these lenses you'd think someone would scoop it up.

I noticed a few other differences between the Komura and the Acall. The shape and taper of the base ring (the chrome piece that has the DOF scale marked on it) is different, and the aperture blades are very different shapes - more conventional on the Komura, but quite radically cut on the Acall (producing a star-shape at moderate apertures); both lenses have eight blades, however.
 
I recall having read somewhere that the Acall brand was started by a few tech people who left Sankyo Kohki and started their own firm.

There is a number of brand names that all seem to have been made by Sankyo Kohki, who had Komura as their own brand name.

Lenses made by Sankyo Kohki, Acall, Tanack and Topcon all too often seem to share optical design, and sometimes also exterior design.

O2pilot, are you able to show a few shots of the two lenses side by side? that would be most interesting to see! I have owned several Acall and Komura lenses, but never the 3.5/35mm lenses from both brands at the same time so I never actually saw them side by side.

Here's a few photos. All are in the same orientation as the first, with the Acall on the left and the Komura on the right. Sorry they're not better quality - I don't really have any close-focus digital options.



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[url=https://flic.kr/p/CWGY4p]
 
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