R-D1s - Firmware upgrade

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Just received a mail from Epson France website indicated a firmware upgrade will be available on the 1st june to download and upgrade to R-D1s...
 
Man, that's great news if it turns out to be accurate!

I suspect a lot of people will especially like the following feature (quoted from the notes on the "What's New in the R-D 1s" site link):

Improved shutter release
•The full shutter release is recognized by R-D1s in display mode
–Ensures no images are missed even if the camera is in display mode when checking a previously taken image
 
Donald Mann said:
how will it be installed - through the sd card?
It'll have to be. I assume it's like my old Canon 10D: copy the firmware to a freshly formatted SD card via a card reader, ensure your camera's battery is fully charged, stick the card in the camera, and follow the instructions that appear on the screen.

Looking at Epson's website, it seems that the changes are:

Firmware
  • Raw files can have embedded JPGs
  • Choice of colour space: Adobe RGB or sRGB
  • Increased image zoom on LCD
  • Shutter no longer needs two presses to fire when the LCD is on (this is the most useful change, IMO)
  • Improved noise reduction at ISO 1600

PhotoRaw
  • Interpolation to 13.5 megapixels
  • Tone menu
  • Additional preference settings

There may be other (perhaps undocumented) changes as companies often fix "bugs" without much of a fanfare...
 
There's also talk of improved noise control via some sort of heat sink - that's not firmware. However, the other improvements will be very welcome. Roll on June.
 
Not clear whether the hardware stuff - heat sink, microlens shift for less vignetting, are actually part of the new R-1Ds or just already in the R-D1 and just being restated here - those aren't on the "Difference between R-D1 and R-1ds slides"
 
The slide deck is confusing with regard to the R-D1s hardware features. If I had to guess, I'd say the heatsink and microlens features are only in the R-D1s. I'd also bet that the R-D1s is simply the remainder of the original R-D1 production run. If that is the case, then I don't understand Epson's distribution strategy for the R-D1s. Apparently not available in North America. Where, in fact, will it be made available?
 
Trius said:
The slide deck is confusing with regard to the R-D1s hardware features. If I had to guess, I'd say the heatsink and microlens features are only in the R-D1s. I'd also bet that the R-D1s is simply the remainder of the original R-D1 production run. If that is the case, then I don't understand Epson's distribution strategy for the R-D1s. Apparently not available in North America. Where, in fact, will it be made available?

The exact same diagram/explanation about the microlens was present in the original R-D 1 literature, and the heat sink is shown in a cutaway view in a Japanese R-D 1 magazine I have. So while it's possible these have been upgraded in the R-D 1s, it's also possible that the mechanics are exactly the same and the only improvements are in software.
 
Thanks. Now it makes more sense. But I still don't understand why the R-D1s is in limited distribution.
 
jlw said:
while it's possible these have been upgraded in the R-D 1s, it's also possible that the mechanics are exactly the same and the only improvements are in software.
I very much suspect the latter ...
 
Trius said:
Thanks. Now it makes more sense. But I still don't understand why the R-D1s is in limited distribution.

A guess: The US isn't getting the R-D 1s because Epson USA (which hasn't exactly made a gigantic effort to promote the camera) is still sitting on an inventory of R-D 1 units and doesn't want them obsoleted. (Further guess: Epson USA will offer the firmware upgrade as a download, but will do such a poor job of getting the word out that hardly anyone will know it's available.)

Meanwhile, markets where the Epson distributor worked harder to promote the camera are more nearly sold out of their original allocations. These will get the R-D 1s with pre-upgraded firmware and reduced list price, while offering the download to R-D 1 owners.

This scenario assumes that our collective previous guess was correct in thinking that the R-D 1s is essentially a "nameplate" upgrade other than the firmware, and is being introduced as a new model primarily to offer a rationale for cutting the list price a bit. (List prices don't matter a bit in the US, but are more important in countries that have "retail price maintenance" laws; dropping the list price there would help local dealers compete against gray-market imports.)
 
Trius said:
Thanks. Now it makes more sense. But I still don't understand why the R-D1s is in limited distribution.

It seems the R-D1s will only be available in Japan, the rest of Asia and Europe. I can imagine why Japan and the rest of Asia. Maybe the choice for Europe comes from larger sales there than in the US?
 
RML said:
It seems the R-D1s will only be available in Japan, the rest of Asia and Europe.
But not in the UK - Amateur Photographer magazine quoted Epson saying this a couple of weeks or so ago.
 
I read the same item in AP and wondered why not UK for the new model. Any clues anyone? I quite fancy one but if I want it I will have to get it as a sort of grey import from an EU dealer . Makes no sense. Also, Epson.co.uk has an article about it so if they are not intending to sell it here, why do that?
 
It may be that the "s" model is available in various markets only at the request of those markets' distributors. If so, it's still curious that Epson UK would announce it if they're not going to sell it.
 
jlw said:
... markets where the Epson distributor worked harder to promote the camera are more nearly sold out of their original allocations. These will get the R-D 1s with pre-upgraded firmware and reduced list price, while offering the download to R-D 1 owners....

Another scenario is very few R-D1 have been sold in Europe so bodies in stock must be sold off as R-D1s there.
More credible i'm afraid.
Best,
LCT
 
The Epson web store in the US is listed as being out of stock on the R-D1, and no mention of the R-D1s anywhere....B&H is also out of stock....only a few scattered units available at retailers, who say they paid around $2700 for them and can't reduce that price.....so Epson isn't selling any kind of R-D1 in the US now!
 
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