f16sunshine
Moderator
This statement is where this thread should end. It won't but it should
Good light everyone film or digital or whatever !
FrankS
Registered User
I measure the success of my photography by intrinsic measures such as the satisfaction it provides me. So it is important what process I use. I do not denigrate other photographers' work, I'm simply stating that I put greater value on a wet darkroom print from film, than a digitally captured or scanned and inkjet printed one. I don't care that others might not share that opinion.
back alley
IMAGES
well, this thread is going nowhere fast...
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
As one who read more of this than, in the interest of my heart and health, I should have, I sincerely hope a few of the participants find some path to civil and blameless dialogue in the future. By the time they are, say, 76.
I'm not against loving the process. Not at all. You should love the medium you choose to work in. However, I would think it would beneficial to be open minded enough to realize an artist you may like could work with a medium you do not like and do something that you will still like.
Koolzakukumba
Real men use B+W
It's taken a sudden and nasty lurch downhill. Probably best to just pack it in now.
FrankS
Registered User
I think we can recover. We're mature. I'm okay.
burancap
Veteran
Yes. Keep it going. Everybody fight nice!
J. Borger
Well-known
It,s a very fundamental discussion when it comes to the current state and future of photography. More valuable than all the lens, camera threads. It goes right to the heart of the matter. if we can just forget about an unlucky chosen analogy we can probably continue in a civilised way.
Discussions where everybody agrees are boring anyway.
Michael Markey
Veteran
Agreed ...its been rough at times but an interesting discussion never the less.
That is what distinguishes this forum from all the others.
burancap
Veteran
OT (and timely): at 48, I decided to reduce my film to just about nothing this past Friday. I had a catastrophic turn of affairs with six rolls and I all I could think was: I wish these were on an SD card...
Koolzakukumba
Real men use B+W
Michael Markey
Veteran
Koolzakukumba
Real men use B+W
Yep ...developed a roll of Rollie 100 today ... one frame .
Complete botch up
The thing to do, Michael, is click the shutter at least 36 times (unless you've just got 24 exposures) instead of just once. Seriously, though, it's the photography equivalent of impotence: it happens to us all from time to time (never happened to me, mind you, and I'm not talking about the photography thing
).redisburning
Well-known
I mean if this were two years ago Id have felt betrayed.
I am a process photographer. I dont like my own photographs. I dont like the vast majority of your photographs (the general your). I just enjoyed shooting film. I like lenses, too. I did not like shooting digital (I still dont like working with dSLRs and I refuse to shoot smaller than 35mm format).
Ralph was always the vanguard for me. Big grain, blocked shadows, brutal approach to his subject matter and highly subtractive framing.
I might have been hurt to see the ONE living photographer whose work I really and consistently look up to jump to what I considered to be the wrong side of the argument.
But now, I dont see an argument. I just see a dying medium that I no longer feel that attached to. And Ive had my hands in the chemicals, too guys. Maybe less than some of you, maybe more than a few others.
When I discovered LAB color mode in PS, that was it for me. I had a new process that could supplant film.
I am a process photographer. I dont like my own photographs. I dont like the vast majority of your photographs (the general your). I just enjoyed shooting film. I like lenses, too. I did not like shooting digital (I still dont like working with dSLRs and I refuse to shoot smaller than 35mm format).
Ralph was always the vanguard for me. Big grain, blocked shadows, brutal approach to his subject matter and highly subtractive framing.
I might have been hurt to see the ONE living photographer whose work I really and consistently look up to jump to what I considered to be the wrong side of the argument.
But now, I dont see an argument. I just see a dying medium that I no longer feel that attached to. And Ive had my hands in the chemicals, too guys. Maybe less than some of you, maybe more than a few others.
When I discovered LAB color mode in PS, that was it for me. I had a new process that could supplant film.
FrankS
Registered User
Conversely, there have been many images lost on SD cards and hard drives. I imagine some of those photographers wshed the images were archived on film.
burancap
Veteran
I run a home for unwanted film. Send it to me.
I'll just say that the purge is on! My point is that I was so distraught with all of the time, money, and effort put into the rolls -that when they were effectively destroyed, well one just feels like giving up.
When I come on here and see some of the brilliant work by someone like kuvvy in the GR thread, I realize that what I love about film -I can get from more dependable means now.
Koolzakukumba
Real men use B+W
I discovered that more years ago than I care to remember and I'm still shooting film.
Koolzakukumba
Real men use B+W
That's too bad. Hope digital works out well for you.