Rangefinder Myths II - I see exactly what happens at the moment of exposure

Rangefinder Myths II - I see exactly what happens at the moment of exposure

  • Yes

    Votes: 152 62.6%

  • No

    Votes: 91 37.4%
  • Total voters
    243
Hmmm Toulomne....

I think you have forgotten the tactil sense of the finger. If you don't hear your supersilent shutter, or due to a noisy street, you must feel the shutter through the finger.

I do know what and when I have shot.

Bring us a harder bone, please:)

Cheers,
Ruben
 
I'm just waiting to see how long before the OP switches names again.

How about Myth #1- What exactly happened to Topdog1?;)
 
ruben said:
Hmmm Toulomne....

I think you have forgotten the tactil sense of the finger. If you don't hear your supersilent shutter, or due to a noisy street, you must feel the shutter through the finger.

I do know what and when I have shot.

Bring us a harder bone, please:)

Cheers,
Ruben
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Ruben,
As I said, I find the moment of taking a picture to be intensely visual. I don't pay much attention to my trigger finger. That sounds like another good way to sync what happens at the moment of exposure with the scene in the view finder.

/T
 
Tuolumne said:
You know, you guys are really paranoid. Since when did it become politically incorrect to question the veracities of the RF world here? Since one-third of the respondents replied that they can't tell what happened at the moment of exposure, I'd say we have "exposed" this claim as something of a RF marketing "myth" - true for most, but certainly not all people.

Lighten up and you might learn something.

/T
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Actually, you have not "exposed" this as a "marketing myth" (It now certainly sounds like a troll to me.). That logic would say that exposure meters do not work because a certain group of users get bad exposures. That is false reasoning because it is a problem where users cannot use exposure meters properly.

Perhaps we are not the ones who need to learn. If you really have made this post to learn, why bait the question which may cause a questioning of your motives. I can take a light approach, but this is the second time you have done it. You have posted that you are "challenging" the "accepted wisdom" which is an aggreesive act against a position. That is hardly an unbiased position where you are simply trying to find something out.
 
What a bunch of politically correct wooses we have here. Take my journalistic license for what it's worth and leave it at that.

/T
 
Tuolumne said:
Jeez, can't a guy have a little bit of journalistic license without getting into metaphysical discussions? ;)

/T
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Not when there is someone in the crowd who always needs to come across as smarter than everyone else! ;)
 
Tuolumne said:
What a bunch of politically correct wooses we have here. Take my journalistic license for what it's worth and leave it at that.
/T
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Ah, there's the old Ira we know and........

True colors show through eventually.
 
photogdave said:
Not when there is someone in the crowd who always needs to come across as smarter than everyone else! ;)
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Do I? (seriously)
If so, how? I would like to improve my forum etiquette if possible.
I have very strong opinions and state them vigorously. What's wrong with that?

/T
 
Finder said:
Actually, you have not "exposed" this as a "marketing myth" (It now certainly sounds like a troll to me.). That logic would say that exposure meters do not work because a certain group of users get bad exposures. That is false reasoning because it is a problem where users cannot use exposure meters properly.

Perhaps we are not the ones who need to learn. If you really have made this post to learn, why bait the question which may cause a questioning of your motives. I can take a light approach, but this is the second time you have done it. You have posted that you are "challenging" the "accepted wisdom" which is an aggreesive act against a position. That is hardly an unbiased position where you are simply trying to find something out.
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Relax and re-read the first post. It is not challenging or agressive, just questioning. I think this has been a fun and interesting discussion, just like it's meant to be!
 
Tuolumne said:
What a bunch of politically correct wooses we have here. Take my journalistic license for what it's worth and leave it at that.

/T
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Well, I am glad you are not resorting to personal attacks. I just find your approach to an "open" discussion annoying. And I will take it for what it is worth...
 
Finder said:
Well, I am glad you are not resorting to personal attacks. I just find your approach to an "open" discussion annoying. And I will take it for what it is worth...
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First I get attacked as a troll and when I defend myself you call it a personal attack. Being attacked personally first, I will defend myself personally. Leave it at that and get back to the original topic.

/T
 
Well your poll question does not make for an unbiased poll. It will obviously be difficult for many people to say that they know "EXACTLY" what is on their film because they can see through the VF at the moment of exposure. But (close to) 100% would say they have a better idea with an RF than with an SLR. So it's still one benefit of RF cameras.
 
dougiec29 said:
Well your poll question does not make for an unbiased poll. It will obviously be difficult for many people to say that they know "EXACTLY" what is on their film because they can see through the VF at the moment of exposure. But (close to) 100% would say they have a better idea with an RF than with an SLR. So it's still one benefit of RF cameras.
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See later down where "EXACTLY" gets defined as "the blink of an eye".

/T
 
Tuolumne said:
What a bunch of politically correct wooses we have here. Take my journalistic license for what it's worth and leave it at that.

/T
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Perhaps you just don't know what words mean. You say myth and then say it's journalistic license which actually means your are using an imflamatory word to get a rise out of people.

Then you say we are politically correct because we question you on your choice of words. That just doesn't make any sense. Are you Stephen Colbert? Are you using the dictionary of your gut?

Also, if 3/4s of the people can see what happens when taking a photo with a rangefinder it seems to me that that busts the myth not proves it.
 
dougiec29 said:
Well your poll question does not make for an unbiased poll. It will obviously be difficult for many people to say that they know "EXACTLY" what is on their film because they can see through the VF at the moment of exposure. But (close to) 100% would say they have a better idea with an RF than with an SLR. So it's still one benefit of RF cameras.
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Well, right now it's only 72%, which is a far distance from 100%. And that was the reason for the poll. If my phraseology has offended the folks here, I appologize. It was meant to be provocative, not hostile or unfriendly.

/T
 
" Then you say we are politically correct because we question you on your choice of words. That just doesn't make any sense."

No, I wasn't challenged on my choice of words. I was challenged on my intention - to be a troll. Which I am not.

/T
 
Tuolumne said:
" Then you say we are politically correct because we question you on your choice of words. That just doesn't make any sense."

No, I wasn't challenged on my choice of words. I was challenged on my intention - to be a troll. Which I am not.

/T
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That just sound like semantics. You used a trollish word so your intention was deemed to be trollish.
 
Oh come on folks, this is an interesting subject for discussion - Please can we try to avoid dragging it down to petty bickering about the exact wording that someone has used?
 
Tuolumne said:
Ruben,
As I said, I find the moment of taking a picture to be intensely visual. I don't pay much attention to my trigger finger. That sounds like another good way to sync what happens at the moment of exposure with the scene in the view finder.

/T
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Perfectly legitimate Tuolumne, but then you should differentiate between your personal particular reactions when making a photograph, and what you call a "Myth".

Cheers,
Ruben
 
ruben said:
Perfectly legitimate Tuolumne, but then you should differentiate between your personal particular reactions when making a photograph, and what you call a "Myth".

Cheers,
Ruben
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Guys - give it up. I was writing a headline and taking the same liberties as newspaper headline writers do to get people's attention.

/T
 
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