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Tom, you mention that both the m3 and m4 can be converted to fit your rapidwinder, what is the conversion ? so does that mean a new leicavit will work also, and why does the m2 require its own winder design and how many are left,(why will it not work on the m3) can the regular rapidwinder ,leicavit be converted to work with IXMOO ?, i think you mentioned on one of your posts that the baseplate design on the m6 changed is that the reason .
thanks Tom in advance, folks like yourself really make this website!!!!!
 
M3's and M4's can be converted to work with the Leicavit M or Rapidwinder. The intermediate drive from M4-2/M4P or M6 needs to be installed. Not a big deal and though I recommend that you send either the Leicavit M/Rapidwinder with the camera to DAG or sherry for the conversion to "match" them up. Dont know how much they charge for it though..
The M2 uses a different drive. The long take-up shaft for the film take-up spool has a notched shaft that engages a shaft from the Leicavit MP/M2 Rapdwinder. I find that the direct drive tends to be smoother - but thats just me. As for how many are left - about 30 housings/top-plates out of which 8-10 are for my own cameras and another 5-6 are on hold for a friend. The reason I re-designed the the M2 "regular" Rapidwinder to work with the IXMOOS is that I have about 200 IXMOO's and use the with my XX and bulk TriX. This year will see the last of them being made of the IXMOO Rapidwinder being produced.
As for making a M6/MP Rapid-winder being made. Not in the plan as IXMOO's are not compatible with cameras like the M7 (would damage the ISO contacts) and some of the later M6TTL's and MP's will not accept them.
Leica changed the lock on the baseplate sometimes in the 90's to the flat disc (which will not open/close the IXMOO). For a while they would exchange the baseplate to one that would, but too my knowledge they dont do that anymore - probably because of the internal changes to the shell of the M6TTL/MP and the contacts in the M7.
My "run" of Rapidwinders has actually been longer than Leica's run of Leicavit MP's. I have been making them for 24 years and though demand has slowed down (fine with me) it is still there!
The M2 Rapidwinder was a natural development, considering my love of that camera and the IXMOO version was simply a small run (100 in all) mainly to supply my own demand.
Hell, I am getting old and want to take pictures too - there are still close to 7000 ft of XX in the freezer and 600-1000 rolls of TriX.
 
Tom,

I recently acquired an M2 Rapidwinder (from Dan) and had hoped for it to be an IXMOO version but it is a 'regular' M2 version.

How hard would it be to adapt a regular M2 version to an IXMOO version? At the moment I only own one IXMOO but would definitely be interested in having many more since re-using regular cassettes sometimes fails in that I cannot close the cassette up again once I have attached bulk film to the film spool...

Also, the RapidWinder I now own looks pretty stainless steel to me, how can I tell if it is a stainless steel version?
 
Unfortunately the version 1 M2 Rapidwinder cannot be converted to take IXMOO's. It requires a different lock and in the IXMOO version this is machined into the top-plate. The top-plate is also a different design - it is made out of alloy and drops down into the bodyshell and is held in place with two stainless steel screw.
I did make a couple of prototypes of the earlier version for testing purposes - but they are very time-consuming to get right. It was much easier to tell the CNC computer what to do - rather than file and solder!
 
Hi Johann,
I went to the local one-hour lab, and acquired hundreds and hundreds of Fuji and Kodak cassettes, for nothing in terms of cost. I use scotch tape to attach the leader to the bulk roll, and spool the film out in a daylight loader. I've never had any scratches at all using this method.

Kodak Snap Cap Cassettes also work with that M2, using the "TomA" stretch-out-your-arms method. But attaching the endcap is a PITA, I have lost a few rolls that way, when the cap pops off.

Better to use the discarded cassettes, there are no downsides. Buying a daylight loader is alot cheaper than buying a bunch of IXMOO's.



QUOTE=buzzardkid;1640345]Tom,

I recently acquired an M2 Rapidwinder (from Dan) and had hoped for it to be an IXMOO version but it is a 'regular' M2 version.

How hard would it be to adapt a regular M2 version to an IXMOO version? At the moment I only own one IXMOO but would definitely be interested in having many more since re-using regular cassettes sometimes fails in that I cannot close the cassette up again once I have attached bulk film to the film spool...

Also, the RapidWinder I now own looks pretty stainless steel to me, how can I tell if it is a stainless steel version?[/QUOTE]
 
Johann,
Too bad your not in the States, I have bag fulls of Kodak cassettes sitting around. I kept them originally thinking I would bulk load but that day hasn't come. Even if I did start I don't think I can afford enough reels to load all of them!
 
Thanks for your replies, Tom, Dan and Darren!

I guess I'm okay with the use of regular cassettes, but those IXMOO's always give me that 'built to last forever' feel, just so cool.

Using the regular cassettes of course is a lot cheaper, point taken. Currently I'm re-using the cassettes from my developed B&W film, only making sure that the newly spooled film is of the same speed as the cassette says.

I will be stocking up more on RolleiRetro100 and 400 to keep me in business for years to come 😉
 
M3 with Rapidwinder

M3 with Rapidwinder

I've been playing with the idea of converting one of my M3s to take a Rapidwinder. To convert to M4P to M7 Rapidwinder would require major surgery. But to convert to the M2 winder--would that only need an M2 shaft to be installed in the M3?
 
Shin Oyama said:
I've been playing with the idea of converting one of my M3s to take a Rapidwinder. To convert to M4P to M7 Rapidwinder would require major surgery. But to convert to the M2 winder--would that only need an M2 shaft to be installed in the M3?
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Converting the M3 is a fairly simple job for someone like Don Goldberg. It involves installing a M6/M7 intermediate drive in the bottom and then you can also use the "new" Leicavit MP.
Converting the M2 is more complex as just installing the long shaft disconnects the filmcounter for the M3 - unless you can source a M4M/Mot drive - which are betting a bit scarce.
If you are converting for a Rapidwinder on the M3 I always advice getting the winder and supply that with the camera to the "converter" as it can then be matched to the set-up.
 
Tom A said:
Converting the M3 is a fairly simple job for someone like Don Goldberg. It involves installing a M6/M7 intermediate drive in the bottom and then you can also use the "new" Leicavit MP.
Converting the M2 is more complex as just installing the long shaft disconnects the filmcounter for the M3 - unless you can source a M4M/Mot drive - which are betting a bit scarce.
If you are converting for a Rapidwinder on the M3 I always advice getting the winder and supply that with the camera to the "converter" as it can then be matched to the set-up.
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Tom,

Thanks for the info. This offers some possibilities (GAS).

Cal
 
Hello guys.

I found a Rapidwinder in Tokyo for a reasonable price, much cheaper than Leicavit. Do these things fit M4-P and M6TTL? And I presume that they are just as good as Leicavits right?

I never used such devices before and don't know much about them actually.
 
RFluhver said:
Hello guys.

I found a Rapidwinder in Tokyo for a reasonable price, much cheaper than Leicavit. Do these things fit M4-P and M6TTL? And I presume that they are just as good as Leicavits right?

I never used such devices before and don't know much about them actually.
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The Rapidwinder for the M4-2 onwards fits the M4-2 and any later M Leica, the M2 Rapidwinder fits the M2. 🙂 So you just have to figure out, which Rapidwinder you have found.
 
maddoc said:
The Rapidwinder for the M4-2 onwards fits the M4-2 and any later M Leica, the M2 Rapidwinder fits the M2. 🙂 So you just have to figure out, which Rapidwinder you have found.
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So they come in different versions? Different versions fit different cameras is what you're saying right? How can I know what is the version of this thing?

Btw, I found it in that joint above ABC Mart in Shinjuku. Do you know it?
 
hi, i am pretty sure that m2 version will be marked M2 and only fit the M2 as stated in above post,the others are just marked rapidwinder, please Toms website he has more info listed
 
Today I went to the camera market in Shinjuku to pick up a Rapidwinder. As I'm inspecting this thing I asked the guy if it fits the M6. He says, no; only the M4-P apparently. I'm now totally confused!

I thought these things were designed to fit from M4-2 to the M7!
 
OK, I will go back there tomorrow as I'm absolutely dead set on getting one of them.

Yeah, the guy isn't the friendliest looking. He always strikes me as a bit of gaijin hater, so I always feel uncomfortable whenever I'm in there. But I like this joint because certain items are reasonably priced.

Anyway, I just went around the corner to Lemonsha instead. Didn't even know they opened there, but there it is - Lemonsha! The guy told me they opened in April, but then Rob, the German bloke, told me on Twitter that they may have opened only as recently as August.
 
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