kyler.
Established
Hi guys,
As you might have seen from my other thread I am about to take a shot at film developing. I was wondering if you guys could recommend any books that take you through the process clearly and give good detail, etc.
Thanks,
Kyle
As you might have seen from my other thread I am about to take a shot at film developing. I was wondering if you guys could recommend any books that take you through the process clearly and give good detail, etc.
Thanks,
Kyle
ornate_wrasse
Moderator
For my introductory darkroom class at the local community college, the following book was the recommended text:
Black & White Photography - A Basic Manual - Third Edition, Revised
by Henry Horenstein
Ellen
Black & White Photography - A Basic Manual - Third Edition, Revised
by Henry Horenstein
Ellen
fixbones
.......sometimes i thinks
Can't go wrong with 'The Film Devveloping Cookbook' by Steve Anchell.
That book got me started and I am still referring to it every now and then.
That book got me started and I am still referring to it every now and then.
cmdrzed
wallflower
Black & White Photography - A Basic Manual - Third Edition, Revised
by Henry Horenstein
+1
I keep going back to this book from time to time.
Tipton
Tipton Photo
Bernhard Suess' "Mastering Black and White Photography : From Camera to Darkroom" is a great book, definitely worth having in your collection in my opinion.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ma...ss/e/9781581153064/?itm=1&USRI=bernhard+suess
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ma...ss/e/9781581153064/?itm=1&USRI=bernhard+suess
sparrow6224
Well-known
The Kodak pdf instructions for Xtol will tell you exactly how to develop your film using that product. I'm sure most have something similar. But if you really want to understand what you're doing then while you're undertaking your first attemps and learning form the formulas and recommendations you should read THE NEGATIVE by Ansel Adams.
Fawley
Well-known
But if you really want to understand what you're doing then while you're undertaking your first attemps and learning form the formulas and recommendations you should read THE NEGATIVE by Ansel Adams.
Great book and the first one I owned, however John Schaefer does a nice job of summarizing most of what Adams has to say, plus a whole lot more, in Basic Techniques of Photography, An Ansel Adams Guide.
Lets face it though, most books on the subject are now out of print so you're into a used book store or Amazon. Take the first of the recommended books that comes along at a good price.
Tim Gray
Well-known
Horenstein is a good intro book. Personally I like David Vestal, The Craft of Photography. It's out of print but you can get it for like a quarter used on Amazon. I can't stress that book enough. I got three or four books when I started, and not only was his the best, it was super cheap.
Also, Ilford and Kodak have some good PDF references that will teach you the basics of developing. The Kodak XTOL instructions has some stuff in it, but you can always refer to Kodak AJ-3. Ilford has a page on getting started too. Read through the links there.
Also, Ilford and Kodak have some good PDF references that will teach you the basics of developing. The Kodak XTOL instructions has some stuff in it, but you can always refer to Kodak AJ-3. Ilford has a page on getting started too. Read through the links there.
samuelphoto
Established
Ilford Monochrome Darkroom Practice. Out of print but generally available through Amazon. Also, the Ansel Adams books The Negative and The Print. Ditto for sourcing.
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wlewisiii
Guest
Get the Adams Trilogy - The Camera, The Negative & The Print. Well written, lots of information & well illustrated. You can usually find the paperback edition used.
Fawley
Well-known
Horenstein is a good intro book. Personally I like David Vestal, The Craft of Photography. It's out of print but you can get it for like a quarter used on Amazon. I can't stress that book enough. I got three or four books when I started, and not only was his the best, it was super cheap.
Agreed. Not only is Vestal a good teacher but he's incredibly irreverant which makes him a lot of fun to read. I love the way he kind of dismisses the zone system in one or two sentences (even though I like the zone system).
imokruok
Well-known
Free, valuable, and how I started:
Ilford's "Processing Your First Black and White Film"
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/200629163442455.pdf
When I do black and white developing, I still use this to walk me through the steps, although I have filled the pages with notes...
Ilford's "Processing Your First Black and White Film"
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/200629163442455.pdf
When I do black and white developing, I still use this to walk me through the steps, although I have filled the pages with notes...
Chris101
summicronia
Hear, hear for the Adams books. I find his photography technically stunning, but devoid of interesting ideas. But the man can describe the technical process like nobody's business. I think this is all you would need to read, but then will have fun reading the rest.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Apparently I am alone in finding Adams a wordy and tedious writer, much given to jargon. I'd not recommend any of his books as either entertaining or informative for the beginner, and once you're no longer a beginner there are several books that are vastly better on theory: Glafkides, Haist, Clerc...
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
zerobuttons
Well-known
I have to disagree - this book will be too complicated for a developing beginner. I know this for a fact because I did the mistake of buying it when I was just considering beginning developing my own film. This book almost scared me away from doing it. I have no doubts about the qualities of the book from an advanced user´s viewpoint, though.Can't go wrong with 'The Film Devveloping Cookbook' by Steve Anchell.
That book got me started and I am still referring to it every now and then.
What helped me begin developing film were these:
1) Different YouTube demonstrations - just do a search for "develop film".
2) The manufacturer information. See here, for instance:
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/applications/page.asp?n=9
3) C. I. Jacobson´s "Developing". Yes, it is an old book, but the descriptions of the general exposure and developing processes are unsurpassed in any other book I have seen on the subject. Just skip the chapters on films, developers and such - they are of course outdated. It can be found here, for instance:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...rect=true&qid=1294573193&sr=8-1&condition=all
Freakscene
Obscure member
Apparently I am alone in finding Adams a wordy and tedious writer, much given to jargon. I'd not recommend any of his books as either entertaining or informative for the beginner, and once you're no longer a beginner there are several books that are vastly better on theory: Glafkides, Haist, Clerc...
You're not alone Roger; neither could I really ever follow what Adams wrote. It really slowed me down for a while while I was learning, but I readily acknowledge that everyone reads and learns differently.
Marty
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Peter S
Guest
Maybe most important book to recommend is a notebook. Keep track of when you made the various solutions (fixer, stop, developer) with relevant information like dilution etc. Next to my solutions I always take note of how many films I have developed so I can avoid exhausted fixer/developer etc.
Then I keep track per developed film of the conditions I shot it in (very contrasty or flat light, cloudy day etc etc) at what I rated the film in camera and then things like developer dilution, temperature, time, maybe even agitation schedule etc. At the bottom of the entry I will then write comments after examining the dried film like: too contrasty, did not scan well etc etc so that I can slowly figure out what the best combinations are for me.
The notebook helps you in keeping track of what you do and should allow you to faster reach the stage where you know what to do in most situations and for new situations you will have a pretty good idea about best developing approach.
If you just develop without any system and vary things like temperature and time never really keeping track of results you will spend a lot more time to get good results.
It is not a lot of work and well worth the little effort.
Personally I also did not like Adam's books, but enjoyed Anchells (once I was already more experienced), but I think you can get most information you need on the internet and here or on www.apug.org. or at Roger and Frances' website (www.rogerandfrances.com/) , modestly not mentioned in his own post ( a very useful place for information).
Welcome to the club.
Then I keep track per developed film of the conditions I shot it in (very contrasty or flat light, cloudy day etc etc) at what I rated the film in camera and then things like developer dilution, temperature, time, maybe even agitation schedule etc. At the bottom of the entry I will then write comments after examining the dried film like: too contrasty, did not scan well etc etc so that I can slowly figure out what the best combinations are for me.
The notebook helps you in keeping track of what you do and should allow you to faster reach the stage where you know what to do in most situations and for new situations you will have a pretty good idea about best developing approach.
If you just develop without any system and vary things like temperature and time never really keeping track of results you will spend a lot more time to get good results.
It is not a lot of work and well worth the little effort.
Personally I also did not like Adam's books, but enjoyed Anchells (once I was already more experienced), but I think you can get most information you need on the internet and here or on www.apug.org. or at Roger and Frances' website (www.rogerandfrances.com/) , modestly not mentioned in his own post ( a very useful place for information).
Welcome to the club.
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kyler.
Established
Thanks everyone,
so many options, I'll have a hard time deciding!
so many options, I'll have a hard time deciding!
Fawley
Well-known
You're not alone Roger; neither could I really ever follow what Adams wrote. It really slowed me down for a while while I was learning, but I readily acknowledge that everyone reads and learns differently.
Marty
I also find Adams wordy and tedious (a little pompous at times to boot), but he does cover the subject more completely and accurately than most of the other books (aimed at an amateur audience), I have looked at.
GSNfan
Well-known
The best source for film developing help is youtube. Search for film development on youtube.
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