Reflex on Kickstarter

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So the SLR being designed by the people behind If You Leave on Instagram have started their Kickstarter and it turns out the camera does in fact offer something new.

Interchangeable lens mounts! Could be flimsy and prone to leaking but I imagine they'll work that out.

Still too much cash for me, but interchangeable lens mounts and film backs would make it a pretty incredible system.

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ail&utm_term=0_290736cfd4-ae28bb26ee-35231441
 
Interchangeable backs sound nice, but what's the point of interchangeable lens mounts? One can adopt pretty much all SLR mounts to Canon EOS cameras anyway. Their mounts certainly won't have auto diaphragm action either. Then, there's always the possibility to buy old camera bodies for probably less than a film back for this will cost...
 
Well, I guess they could have choosen a common mount and fix it to the camera, and then offer adapters for the other mounts.
Depending on the mount to film plane distance that may not be possible.
At any rate the camera is way overthought. Forget the interchangeable backs and mounts. Pick out a popular mount from the film era, a Nikon F mount would do, (although I would prefer OM) and build an all mechanical camera. All it takes is money, a lot of money, way way beyond 131K (add a few zeros to that figure).

Built to a fairly rugged standard it would be priced at about $600 and who would put up with that? Not when the used market is awash with metal, manual, and mechanical film SLR's, most for less, sometimes a lot less than $100?
 
Not the best choice for a name, in my opinion, given that all SLRs are reflex cameras. Kind of like how Zeiss named their new rangefinder the Zeiss Ikon, but Zeiss Ikon made a lot of rangefinders...

I figure a lot of us here wouldn't buy the camera, and my immediate thought when I saw this was along the lines of 'why would anyone buy this for $800 when they could get a Canon FTb and lens for $50' - but that's not the point. It's new, and different. Interchangeable lens mounts and detachable back and built-in flash and light and whatever. I don't understand why you'd want/need that stuff but this camera's not marketed to me - they've put a lot of work into this project and presumably they know their audience.

If it is stop-down lens operation only (as I'd imagine it to be) that's kind of dumb. 2017 camera with 1950s lens operation.

I dunno; it'll be cool to see how this project works out.
 
Seems a great effort for me. Really like interchangeable backs. Agree, one could buy an additional body for less, but it means more weight on my back and need to change lens for whatever I got on my main lens.

May support it, depending on how fat my wallet is at end of year.

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Marcelo
 
Well, I guess they could have choosen a common mount and fix it to the camera, and then offer adapters for the other mounts.

But that is a already available. I'm not sure why people think this is a bad idea...as long as they implement it properly. It's very clean.
 
I don't understand why you'd want/need that stuff but this camera's not marketed to me - they've put a lot of work into this project and presumably they know their audience.
What exactly is the demographic that would want this camera instead of a classic film camera like the Nikon F2, Canon F1, Olympus OM1, Pentax Spotmatic, etc.?
 
I like the grip,

Hope they make their goals.

I won't be backing it as I'm sure most of us here will not.
 
What exactly is the demographic that would want this camera instead of a classic film camera like the Nikon F2, Canon F1, Olympus OM1, Pentax Spotmatic, etc.?

People who like to use different mounts and want a new body to do it with?
 
What exactly is the demographic that would want this camera instead of a classic film camera like the Nikon F2, Canon
F1, Olympus OM1, Pentax Spotmatic, etc.?

I don't know either, but it's not you or me! Probably weird hipsters, like the ones that use film point and shoot cameras. Like my cousin.
 
I admire their initiative, but there is so much wrong in the design:

  • You can't change film with the camera on a tripod. The body must be removed from the film back to rewind and reload and it's the back that has the tripod mount.
  • The lens mount plates are not likely to be very strong, limiting the use of big heavy lenses. Not bolting the body flange directly to the heavier body castings is a mistake many early SLRs exhibited. The best examples are the early Pentax models, pre-Spotmatic, which frequently had flange alignment issues. The plates need to be very robust and the locking system needs to be very solid. Hopefully they'll do a much better design than illustrated. If not, there will be significant light leak issues.
 
if it isn’t auto-diaphragm, they’ve made a huge mistake. there’s no way im gonna rack between wide-open and stopped down for every shot.
 
I'm really unhappy with the camera.

The design looks pretty good to me, and from what I can see they've kept it simple. But I now have a bloody horrible 1980s song by Duran Duran going through my head.

I could not buy a camera whose name will always evoke Simon Le Bon's awful whiney warbling.
 
Their early tests showed some light leaks which I assume was from the interchangeable mount not being finished, but their newer tests show no leaks so I guess they've worked out how to make them fit tightly.

I have no idea how the aperture linking will work, if at all. If they've somehow got their lens mounts to link to all of the different aperture linkages that's pretty amazing. Otherwise it'll be stop-down. Which as others have said, sort of negates the interchangeable mounts because basic adapters cost nothing.
 
Just noticed in the specs: "depth of field inverted preview"

... which says to me the lens is stopped down and opens up with a button? If it's the inverse of a normal depth of field preview. I'm confused.
 
So many negative comments... isn't it great that there will probably be a new Film camera?
I admire their creativity!
 
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