ptpdprinter
Veteran
Yes, it sounds like stop-down metering and exposure. Like you, I assume there is a lever to open up the lens for focusing. Part and parcel of the interchangeable lens mounts. It sounds inconvenient, but perhaps that inconvenience is part of its charm. I am also guessing it has a plain matte screen without focusing aids, like micro-prism collar or split-image, or both, which would go dark at stopped-down apertures.Just noticed in the specs: "depth of field inverted preview"
... which says to me the lens is stopped down and opens up with a button? If it's the inverse of a normal depth of field preview. I'm confused.
Yes, it's stop-up focusing. 
The lens is stopped down by default for metering. Press a button to open up the aperture for focus and composing.
Instant return mirror? Unknown.
Viewfinder: what focusing screen(s)? What mag? What eye relief? Diopters?
I don't think the market is a typical RFFer.
The lens is stopped down by default for metering. Press a button to open up the aperture for focus and composing.
Instant return mirror? Unknown.
Viewfinder: what focusing screen(s)? What mag? What eye relief? Diopters?
I don't think the market is a typical RFFer.
Prest_400
Multiformat
Now, make it 6x6/6x7 and release a f2 standard lens with it...
Out to Lunch
Ventor
During the past three hours they have attracted another 10,000 UK pounds.
bayernfan
Well-known
the camera won't work for me, but i applaud the effort and wish them success. the film community needs more people to step up like this. hopefully an innovative film rangefinder pops up soon.
furcafe
Veteran
My feelings exactly. With the tolerances possible w/today's computer-controlled machine tools, it's actually easier to make certain things like interchangeable backs. Not so sure about optical rangefinders (I think that's 1 reason why Leicas, & Bessas, are still relatively expensive compared to SLRs).
the camera won't work for me, but i applaud the effort and wish them success. the film community needs more people to step up like this. hopefully an innovative film rangefinder pops up soon.
f16sunshine
Moderator
This concept has more of a place with Digital cameras.
A replaceable lens mount ala Ricoh GR.
Other than the cool factor, what is the need for more film SLR's. There are 10's of Millions out there ready to use
A replaceable lens mount ala Ricoh GR.
Other than the cool factor, what is the need for more film SLR's. There are 10's of Millions out there ready to use
Yokosuka Mike
Abstract Clarity
Reminds me a little bit of my Bessaflex TM.
Huss
Veteran
So many negative comments... isn't it great that there will probably be a new Film camera?
I admire their creativity!
Exactly! People here would kick puppies given the chance!
I think it is fantastic, and cheaper than the Cosina/Vivitar/Nikon FM10.
I'm in. Just hoping they (or someone) makes an Minolta MD mount for it.
Pioneer
Veteran
Exactly! People here would kick puppies given the chance!
I think it is fantastic, and cheaper than the Cosina/Vivitar/Nikon FM10.
I'm in. Just hoping they (or someone) makes an Minolta MD mount for it.
I've noticed that on a lot of forums. Everyone seems to want to support film until someone comes out with a new film or camera. Then the fangs come out.
I think it is great that someone is trying to come out with a new SLR film camera. The last two cameras I pledged to buy on Kickstarter (Wanderlust and Intrepid) turned out to be terrific buys and I use them constantly. I put my money where my mouth is on this one so we will see how it turns out. I hope they make it.
I am not too sure I will need several different lens mounts, M42 is a pretty good option all on its own, but I am all for interchangeable film backs. I use the Contaflex and the Contarex and there are problems with their interchangeable film backs not too mention that those cameras are getting quite old. It will be interesting to see how someone else implements the idea with new technology available.
BillBingham2
Registered User
I love the idea, got a few concerns about the execution, they have and a idea and the guts to try it out, more power to them.
While there are a LOT of mechanical issues with doing Auto-Aperture, I'm wondering if you could deal with them electronically (control of the movements needed) with less headaches to keep the modules idea.
Much more impressive than the Yashica folks (who are at about 12X their funding level currently with 11 days or so to go).
B2 (;->
While there are a LOT of mechanical issues with doing Auto-Aperture, I'm wondering if you could deal with them electronically (control of the movements needed) with less headaches to keep the modules idea.
Much more impressive than the Yashica folks (who are at about 12X their funding level currently with 11 days or so to go).
B2 (;->
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
Perhaps with enough interest in this or other new film cameras Mr. Kobayashi of Cosina
or some other experienced manufacturer will return to the film camera making business,
offering us something more serviceable than under-engineered Kickstarter pipedreams.
Chris
or some other experienced manufacturer will return to the film camera making business,
offering us something more serviceable than under-engineered Kickstarter pipedreams.
Chris
retinax
Well-known
Good idea, auto diaphragm electrically driven, but nothing like that mentioned on the kickstarter site.
I really think auto diaphragm is the best thing since long before sliced bread (I slice myself, like probably most people here, who like all-manual cameras
), and without it this isn't that great for me. I wish them luck in any case, great that someone makes such an an effort.
I really think auto diaphragm is the best thing since long before sliced bread (I slice myself, like probably most people here, who like all-manual cameras
f16sunshine
Moderator
Exactly! People here would kick puppies given the chance!
I think it is fantastic, and cheaper than the Cosina/Vivitar/Nikon FM10.
I'm in. Just hoping they (or someone) makes an Minolta MD mount for it.
So many negative comments... isn't it great that there will probably be a new Film camera?
I admire their creativity!
Not negative here. Maybe Humbug-ish but not negative.
Speaking of puppies.
My point is, why open a puppy mill while in the mean time their are millions of orphan puppies.
Same goes with film SLR's.
I would rather a kickstarter for a classic SLR re-habbing service rather than new cameras.
These guys are "selling" re-habbed Helios-44 and Pentacon 55mm... why build new bodies and create new waste stream?
There is enough out there to last many, many generations of photographers.
Why make more?
michaelwj
----------------
This concept has more of a place with Digital cameras.
A replaceable lens mount ala Ricoh GR.
Other than the cool factor, what is the need for more film SLR's. There are 10's of Millions out there ready to use![]()
Which is why they bring the "cool factor". And it is cool. It's a new SLF with interchangeable backs and interchangeable lens mounts.
Sure it's manual diaphragm and tedious and slow. Its a film camera. If you want to make a bells and whistles film SLR these days you're going to fail. This is retro and neat.
I'm not going to buy one though, apart from not being an SLR person, I like things simple, and interchangeable this and that is just too complicated for me. I can't imaging using two lenses where the focus ring and aperture went in different directions on the same body. My brain would explode.
Can you imagine trying to find the perfect 50 when you have choose from all lenses make for M42, F, FD, OM and PK mounts! Where do you start!
Out to Lunch
Ventor
I enjoyed reading this reaction to the Reflex Kickstarter initiative: https://www.35mmc.com/08/11/2017/stop-bloody-moaning-support-film-photography-industry/
Huss
Veteran
Not negative here. Maybe Humbug-ish but not negative.
Speaking of puppies.
My point is, why open a puppy mill while in the mean time their are millions of orphan puppies.
Same goes with film SLR's.
Cuz those millions out there are not puppies. But old mangy mutts.
Huss
Veteran
I enjoyed reading this reaction to the Reflex Kickstarter initiative: https://www.35mmc.com/08/11/2017/stop-bloody-moaning-support-film-photography-industry/
Exactly! Thanks for linking.
It's not just a new camera, but a 'new' concept to a 35mm film camera.
Film lovers should be rejoicing, not moaning!
Huss
Veteran
I'm in. Hoping for a Minolta MD mount in the future, but the Nikon and M42 would work for now.
f16sunshine
Moderator
Cuz those millions out there are not puppies. But old mangy mutts.
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ahh... touché!
mumble mumble.... waste stream...
grumble mumble .... kids on the lawn... grumble
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