Well, I know that you know we have all enjoyed your work Peter. We also all really look forward to seeing it again, hopefully soon.
I have used the Internet since 1980. I went many years without joining forums such as this. I like this forum as the type of experience that you went through is taken seriously by the moderator. Whenever you post your work in a public place it will be viewed by a lot of people, and some of them will be the type of cringing little coward who likes to throw insults at you while hiding behind their computer. If they do not have the guts to put their name on the message the reply should be "Who the hell are you and why are you bothering me anyway".
If you can reclaim the Email from your trash file let Jorge trace it. If you deleted it from trash but did not compress the trash file you can probably still read it with some utilities. I like Netscape for its mail folder utilities; Wordpad can read the Trash Folder with all of its deleted messages. I think Outlook and other products are the same. Let Jorge go after them.
If you can reclaim the Email from your trash file let Jorge trace it. If you deleted it from trash but did not compress the trash file you can probably still read it with some utilities. I like Netscape for its mail folder utilities; Wordpad can read the Trash Folder with all of its deleted messages. I think Outlook and other products are the same. Let Jorge go after them.
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Laika
Guest
Peter,
I hope after some time to think about it you repost your pictures, don't feel pressured by some idiot ranting at you. Criticism is one thing but getting personal with insults etc is totally out of line
Don't let this get you down.
I hope after some time to think about it you repost your pictures, don't feel pressured by some idiot ranting at you. Criticism is one thing but getting personal with insults etc is totally out of line
Don't let this get you down.
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Peter
Guest
Thank you guys for the support. Give me some time and I will start posting again.
oftheherd
Veteran
Just yesterday I and others were noting the friendly attitude of all forum members. I think that still holds. The person who attacked you did not do it in this forum (unfortunately, that could still happen). As pointed out, anyone with a connection to the net can make their thoughts known. The bad along with the good.
Peter, I am in a profession where it is expected that people will express their belief that I have questionable parentage, have no job knowledge, no compassion, prefer to do things that are designed to anger people, and don't wash my feet. So I guess it is easier for me to say, but I will say it. Don't let someone like that get you down. You must be and I am sure you are, above people like that. You know it isn't a perfect world. If you don't run up against the imperfections often, good for you!
But when you do have the misfortune to encounter one like that, realize that you have been accosted by an imbecilic moron without moral courage. Do you think the person was correct in their assessment of your abilities? I hope not. Consider then, why let them get you down? If they are correct in some of their assessments, it is no news to you. Ignore the vile the critique was delivered in, you don't need it to store the knowledge you already have.
And while I am at it, add me to the list of those here who admire your work. In the unlikely event you do lack confidence in your work, get over it! If you think you have room to improve, get in line. We all do. I certainly do!
Lastly, why do you think the person attacked you the way he did? Was the person looking for a reaction like you gave him? Do you want him to win that way? Do you think you are the only person in the world this person attacks? I can tell you from experience, that is unlikely unless it is someone closer to you than you think, that has taken a dislike to you.
Only you can decide how you should react to this. Maybe I am just too bull headed, but I wouldn't let someone get to me, or at least allow him to see that he had gotten to me so easily. As long as that type of person sees they can affect you, you will hear from them often. When they see they can't, most don't enjoy continueing if they can't see effects. I would suggest you don't give him any victories. I would also request you don't deprive us here of the chance to admire and learn from your photography.
Whatever you decide I know I, and I think all regulars of this forum, are with you.
Peter, I am in a profession where it is expected that people will express their belief that I have questionable parentage, have no job knowledge, no compassion, prefer to do things that are designed to anger people, and don't wash my feet. So I guess it is easier for me to say, but I will say it. Don't let someone like that get you down. You must be and I am sure you are, above people like that. You know it isn't a perfect world. If you don't run up against the imperfections often, good for you!
But when you do have the misfortune to encounter one like that, realize that you have been accosted by an imbecilic moron without moral courage. Do you think the person was correct in their assessment of your abilities? I hope not. Consider then, why let them get you down? If they are correct in some of their assessments, it is no news to you. Ignore the vile the critique was delivered in, you don't need it to store the knowledge you already have.
And while I am at it, add me to the list of those here who admire your work. In the unlikely event you do lack confidence in your work, get over it! If you think you have room to improve, get in line. We all do. I certainly do!
Lastly, why do you think the person attacked you the way he did? Was the person looking for a reaction like you gave him? Do you want him to win that way? Do you think you are the only person in the world this person attacks? I can tell you from experience, that is unlikely unless it is someone closer to you than you think, that has taken a dislike to you.
Only you can decide how you should react to this. Maybe I am just too bull headed, but I wouldn't let someone get to me, or at least allow him to see that he had gotten to me so easily. As long as that type of person sees they can affect you, you will hear from them often. When they see they can't, most don't enjoy continueing if they can't see effects. I would suggest you don't give him any victories. I would also request you don't deprive us here of the chance to admire and learn from your photography.
Whatever you decide I know I, and I think all regulars of this forum, are with you.
HelenB
Established
Peter,
I've been reading this thread, and after getting over the initial shock I began to wonder what the person's motivation was. Given the high standard of your documentary work, I wouldn't be surprised if it was jealousy - quite a high compliment.
Please repost your pictures. Please continue to take the pictures you are moved to take.
Best wishes,
Helen
I've been reading this thread, and after getting over the initial shock I began to wonder what the person's motivation was. Given the high standard of your documentary work, I wouldn't be surprised if it was jealousy - quite a high compliment.
Please repost your pictures. Please continue to take the pictures you are moved to take.
Best wishes,
Helen
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Peter
Guest
I would like to thank all the wonderful people of this forum who have given me so much encouragement. You all are right, creeps do exist but my life should not be dictated by them and I have started posting again! But it will really take some time to sort them out and upload them though! You all are wonderful people!!
You all are wonderful people!!
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SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
Glad to hear you changed your mind, Peter! Don't allow one single creep to dictate your life. As Helen said, the fact you got an attack is an indirect compliment: your work is so great this guy, instead of enjoying it, has come to envy you for it.
Not to mention that an uncalled for message attacking you personally is a serious matter. People like this bastard operate under the impression that the web is still a largely unregulated domain. Well, it may not be "regulated" in the strict sense, but there are now regulations dictating what is legal and what is not. If this is not the first time you're attacked, it means there is a pattern that you should report to Yahoo, Jorge and all possible web authorities.
In the meanwhile, keep posting! I like your work, and I wish I could churn out as many high quality images as you do!
Not to mention that an uncalled for message attacking you personally is a serious matter. People like this bastard operate under the impression that the web is still a largely unregulated domain. Well, it may not be "regulated" in the strict sense, but there are now regulations dictating what is legal and what is not. If this is not the first time you're attacked, it means there is a pattern that you should report to Yahoo, Jorge and all possible web authorities.
In the meanwhile, keep posting! I like your work, and I wish I could churn out as many high quality images as you do!
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Peter
Guest
Hi Francisco,
I have sent a formal complaint to Yahoo and I am still awaiting their reply. I do not want to get Jorge involve because that creep did not send the e-mail through RFF but to my personal e-mail account in MSN. I really have no idea who did it but from the viciousness of language used, that person really hate me and my work! I do not remember of offending anyone in my local photography scene and it makes the whole incident all the more mysterious. The previous attack on my work in pgallery also used similar language but came from a different e-mail account. But the similarity in language used made me suspect that it is the same person. Life is already tough enough without psychos harassing you!
I have sent a formal complaint to Yahoo and I am still awaiting their reply. I do not want to get Jorge involve because that creep did not send the e-mail through RFF but to my personal e-mail account in MSN. I really have no idea who did it but from the viciousness of language used, that person really hate me and my work! I do not remember of offending anyone in my local photography scene and it makes the whole incident all the more mysterious. The previous attack on my work in pgallery also used similar language but came from a different e-mail account. But the similarity in language used made me suspect that it is the same person. Life is already tough enough without psychos harassing you!
back alley
IMAGES
found this, thought it fit...
"Photographers should follow their own judgement, and not the fads and dictates of others."
bill brandt
"Photographers should follow their own judgement, and not the fads and dictates of others."
bill brandt
Russ
Well-known
backalley photo said:
Peter
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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Rich Silfver
Guest
Happy to see you posting again!!
JohnL
Very confused
Peter
I just stumbled across all this. I see you now have some pictures back in the gallery. They are great. You are a good photographer. Others may do things differently (and most often, not as well), but nobody in their right mind could possibly get upset about what you are doing. Keep going! Be happy!
John
I just stumbled across all this. I see you now have some pictures back in the gallery. They are great. You are a good photographer. Others may do things differently (and most often, not as well), but nobody in their right mind could possibly get upset about what you are doing. Keep going! Be happy!
John
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Peter
Guest
I would like to thank all of you guys for the encouragements! This forum is really a wonderful place!
jdos2
Well-known
I only WISH my own work wrought anger. It's pretty tame stuff. Heck, love and hate are so similiar--passion, and all.
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WDG
Guest
Don't give in!
Don't give in!
Taking your photos down only serves to encourage the person who dislikes them. The best advice I saw was to post even more photos, and completely ignore your personal "troll". Eventually, when he gets no response, he'll get bored and move on.
"People will try to rain on your parade, because they have no parade of their own." (I don't recall who this qoute is attributed to.)
Don't give in!
Taking your photos down only serves to encourage the person who dislikes them. The best advice I saw was to post even more photos, and completely ignore your personal "troll". Eventually, when he gets no response, he'll get bored and move on.
"People will try to rain on your parade, because they have no parade of their own." (I don't recall who this qoute is attributed to.)
hoppinghippos
Camera Addict
Re: Don't give in!
Re: Don't give in!
That's really good advice!! Peter, post up more!! And I love the quote!
Re: Don't give in!
WDG said:
That's really good advice!! Peter, post up more!! And I love the quote!