Rent-a-cop problems

rogue_designer said:
You don't ever walk into a corporate building, or a shopping mall without express written consent?
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I should have added while taking photos..
 
oftheherd said:
Probably hopes for a couple of things. If he also sues his imployee, he seeks to imply he has no liability himself, and if you buy that, maybe you won't sue hiim also. Do whatever you lawyer suggests. He is your expert on law and has your best interests as his guide. That may or may not be true of the owner of the security company.
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I've turned the matter over to my attorney and will let him do what he thinks is best. He told me today that he will file notice this week..
 
tkluck: I agree with just about everything you've said. Everyone, the sweaty rent-a-cop, has a story, and I must always remind myself not to judge the person, but discern the principle and the situation.

I'm working on getting a certain congressman fired. :D
 
Leica M3, M4, M5
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Canon P, Canon 7
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etc., etc. ... Nice cover. Now tell us Colyn, who do you really work for and who sent you!
 
David Murphy said:
Now tell us Colyn, who do you really work for and who sent you!
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WORK!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

How could you accuse me of such a vile terrible thing??:( :(

Really...I'd never do a thing such as work... Honest:angel:
 
colyn said:
I was in downtown Fort Worth today doing some general street photography when I was approached by a security officer aka Rent-a-cop (not a real police officer) who told me I could not take photos. I handed him a copy of The Photographers Rights which he tore up and threw in the street without reading it. He then reached for my camera and when I backed away he pulled out his stun gun. I then called 911 while keeping distance between me and his stun gun. The first policeman arrived within a minute and put him on the ground.

He was detained till his supervisor arrived and relieved him of his duties. I now have to go to the security firm's office Monday and file a formal complaint.
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Interesting. Moral of the story: Being an A-hole trumps Reason. I'm so glad the A-hole only had a stun gun, imagine if he had had a gun with bullets. Actually, don't. Isn't there a new "shoot first, ask questions later" law in place now?
 
No, not even in Texas. ;)

Gabriel M.A. said:
Interesting. Moral of the story: Being an A-hole trumps Reason. I'm so glad the A-hole only had a stun gun, imagine if he had had a gun with bullets. Actually, don't. Isn't there a new "shoot first, ask questions later" law in place now?
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jan normandale said:
Colyn, recently there was a taser related death in Vancouver's airport which involved security staff. It's a serious issue.

Here's a timely link from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation regarding taser related deaths in Canada. You're fortunate.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/map-tasers-canada/
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There have also been a number of taser related deaths here in the US as well.
If a person dies from a taser used by a trained law enforcement officer I'd hate to think how bad it could be if an untrained person had free reign.
 
Gabriel M.A. said:
Interesting. I'm so glad the A-hole only had a stun gun, imagine if he had had a gun with bullets.
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Actually he did have a 380 strapped to his ankle which he was not entitled to have.

Here in Texas a private citizen can be licensed to carry a firearm. He neither had a cancelled firearm permit nor was he licensed as an armed security officer therefore he violated the law in both regards.

I am licensed to carry but seldom do. Had I been carrying a gun I would have been well within my rights to use deadly force in this situation...
 
colyn said:
Actually he did have a 380 strapped to his ankle which he was not entitled to have.

Here in Texas a private citizen can be licensed to carry a firearm. He neither had a cancelled firearm permit nor was he licensed as an armed security officer therefore he violated the law in both regards.

I am licensed to carry but seldom do. Had I been carrying a gun I would have been well within my rights to use deadly force in this situation...
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Unfortunately, we'd be hearing about you on the evening news instead of reading about it here. :eek:
 
Thardy said:
Unfortunately, we'd be hearing about you on the evening news instead of reading about it here. :eek:
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I suspect the 380 would have been used in a life or death situation. Even I don't believe he would have been stupid enough to use it in front of the crowd that had gathered..
 
Mandatory Sentencing Guidelines?

Mandatory Sentencing Guidelines?

I'm not sure about Texas (no pun intended), but many other states have mandatory sentencing laws in effect when a firearm is involved in the commision of a felony. Although in this case, he'll probably be charged with a misdemeanor. Still, we can hope.

I'm also curious how the outcome of this incident would have been different if the private security officer HAD been on the property he was hired to protect.

~Joe
 
Good on you for keeping your head cool Colyn. I'll join the chorus and support your decision to go with whatever your attorney tells you to do. Good luck, and hope you won't have to bump into the same guy again.
 
JoeV said:
I'm not sure about Texas (no pun intended), but many other states have mandatory sentencing laws in effect when a firearm is involved in the commision of a felony. Although in this case, he'll probably be charged with a misdemeanor. Still, we can hope.
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We need that law here..

He was charged with felony possession of a concealed firearm, and aggravated assault with intent to commit serious bodily injury. He is also now unemployed and will most likely lose his security license.
 
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