CMur12
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How is this lab for other services (B&W negs and prints, E6, C41, and scans)?
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resurgence of slide film... viewing?
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How is this lab for other services (B&W negs and prints, E6, C41, and scans)?
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ChrisPlatt
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Those are listed below "OTHER PREMIUM SERVICES NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE".
I haven't used them since their recent move so I suggest you call before sending them anything.
Chris
CMur12
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Steve M.
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The colour in that Kodachrome file that John Carter posted is just beautiful.
Unfortunately, I found this thread too late to know what the "deleted" posts were about, but there's nothing like a good mystery now and then.
About 15 years ago I had my second real camera, a Nikon N6006 w/ a 60 2.8 micro lens, a roll of Kodachrome, and a Nikon 4000 DPI film scanner w/ dig ice. These are the only two shots I can find from that era, but looking at them now, it's too bad that I didn't shoot more slides. Printing the scans on an inkjet to 13x19 was a great way to view Kodachrome too. That 60 Nikkor had a lot of light falloff, but the sharpness made up for that.
Unfortunately, I found this thread too late to know what the "deleted" posts were about, but there's nothing like a good mystery now and then.
About 15 years ago I had my second real camera, a Nikon N6006 w/ a 60 2.8 micro lens, a roll of Kodachrome, and a Nikon 4000 DPI film scanner w/ dig ice. These are the only two shots I can find from that era, but looking at them now, it's too bad that I didn't shoot more slides. Printing the scans on an inkjet to 13x19 was a great way to view Kodachrome too. That 60 Nikkor had a lot of light falloff, but the sharpness made up for that.
brbo
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You can still do it. There are more than one BW slide kits available (Foma, Bellini, Rollei are just the 3 that I know are currently available) and you can use a number of films with those kits. Adox Scala 160 (otherwise same as Adox Silvermax 100) and Fomapan 100R are marketed directly as BW positive films, but some other films will work great too...
HHPhoto
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Exactly.
Another BW reversal home developing kit is offered by Klaus Wehner in Germany. Very high quality.
And there are rumors that Adox is working on such a kit, too.
You can also just use professional labs which offer the classic Scala BW reversal process, like Arka in Paris or Photo Studio 13 in Germany (https://www.photostudio13.de/). Or labs with their own chemistry like Agenzialuce in Italy or Marc Marti in Spain.
Photo Studio 13 offers excellent quality and service at very reasonable prices, and international shipment / business.
Here is a list and description of all the films they process in their Scala BW reversal process:
https://www.photostudio13.de/wp-con...-Scala-Entwicklung-neue-Version-Juni-2016.pdf
Fact is that we have much more options in BW reversal processing today compared to 25 years ago!
By the way, BW reversal pictures are awesome!
Cheers, Jan
ChrisPlatt
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IMO 35mm slides are too small to view and assess unaided,
and I don't want to do the Colonel Klink routine with a loupe.
I just bought one of these for previewing slides:
It has a comfortably large 6" x 6" flat viewing screen.
Chris
and I don't want to do the Colonel Klink routine with a loupe.
I just bought one of these for previewing slides:
It has a comfortably large 6" x 6" flat viewing screen.
Chris
Ted Striker
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Argentia1
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No, they are even cheaper per shot than color negative. Because after development you already have a perfect finished picture with reversal film. But with negative film you need prints and / or scans in addition, which is both expensive if done right with very good quality.
The overall costs per shot are lower with slides.
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Not at all, storing is the same as with negatives. Either in archival sleeves (available both for unmounted and mounted films), or in slide boxes.
Only for very stupid persons who don't know how to use the lightmeter of their camera. Normal photographers with average knowledge who know to work with their lightmeter don't have any problems with reversal film.
A friend of mine is even often shooting slide film with the sunny16 rule in his old folder. It works, quite good results.
Completely wrong! You should read the long-term storage and archivability tests of Wilhelm Imaging Research. E6 films have a archivability of up to more than 200 years, whereas C41 of less than 100 years.
Also wrong: There has been special slide duplicating film for decades.
Argentia1
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Correct.
Transparency film has significantly higher resolution, better sharpness and finer grain as color negative film. You see that in the print, you can make bigger enlargements from transparency film.
And the brillant colors are also unique: You cannot get these vibrant, life-like colors from any color negative film.
There is a reason why color prints in museums and art galleries are mostly made from transparencies.
Transparencies, drum-scanned with a real drum-scanner and then printed of the highest quality silver halide papers are a league of their own.
Argentia1
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Having no local E6 lab is absolutely no reason for not shooting transparency film. You buy your film online and get it send across the country. Easy, daily business in 2018.
The same with using a lab: Send the film for development to them, and a few days later you have the processed film back. Extremely easy and convenient.
It is even more convenient than using a local lab: You have to drive to it, looking (and paying) for parking space, burning fuel etc. Cost a lot of time.
Or just process your E6 at home: It is extremely easy and cost efficient. And you can get perfect quality.
Argentia1
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I completely agree with you that only viewing a scanned slide on a computer screen is just throwing away the outstanding quality of a slide.
That is also true for viewing scanned negatives and digital files on computer screens. Because computer screens are the lowest quality mediums for pictures: Extremely low resolution, problems with halftone renditions because of the LCD structure, flat look with absolutely no 3D-pop.
You get a much much better quality by using slide projection and high-quality slide loupes on light-tables.
The difference is really huge compared to computer screens!
Slide projectors are still built new by some companies, e.g.Braun, Gecko-Cam/Götschmann, Jensen.
But the supply of used projectors in excellent conditions is huge. Now is the perfect time to get an excellent projector with the best lens for very little money. You should buy now before the prices are rising again like we see it with cameras for quite some time now.
bmattock
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All I remember of slide shows is my time spent as a child in the early 1970s, being forced to sit with my parents through a 2 hour slide show in the home of a German couple's recent vacation back to Germany, complete with loads of slides of things they didn't actually manage to photograph, such as blurry objects through a rain-soaked VW passenger car window of a castle they claimed to be passing by at the time. I recall the husband had an 'interesting' home, including his awards from WWII - not the US side.
It was only years later that I realized my parents had disliked the event as much as I did; we all suffered together.
Not much worse than a slide show. Love me some Kodachrome, but I'll take a slide viewer or a scanned image, thanks.
It was only years later that I realized my parents had disliked the event as much as I did; we all suffered together.
Not much worse than a slide show. Love me some Kodachrome, but I'll take a slide viewer or a scanned image, thanks.
Argentia1
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You have been bored because the pictures have been boring. Not because of slide projection.
The same happens today every time when "spray-and-pray" digital shooters are coming home from travels and show their 1000-2000 pictures of everything they have seen on their journey.
Presentation of pictures will be boring when the pictures are boring. No matter whether you look at digital pictures, color negatives scans, prints, slides or BW prints or even paintings.
BW prints will be boring if the content on it is boring. Period.
I've seen wonderful slide shows by my friends.
I've seen outstanding slide shows / audivision shows with slide projectors by professional photographers in halls with several hundred visitors.
And, extremely important:
You don't need any audience to enjoy slide projection!!
You can just enjoy this unsurpassed image quality (you cannot get that quality with digital projectors because their extremely low resolution sucks) by yourself:
Have nice music in the background, have a good Single Malt or lovely red vine, or some sweet chocolate: And enjoy your pictures in huge size and unsurpassed brillance on the slide screen!
FujiLove
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Agree 100%
Slides are lovely to shoot and view. I use an incident meter now, which makes shooting slides a piece of cake because they are natural 'highlight meters'. But I also shot bucket loads of slides as a child using the built in light meter in my old Praktica SLR and they turned out just fine. I processed them in the kitchen sink with a basic three bath kit and a kettle full of water, and they are all as good today as they were when I shot them 35 years ago. Not bad considering they spent most of that time in a freezing cold/boiling hot loft!
FujiLove
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Go on holiday somewhere photogenic (I recommend Iceland) and shoot some fresh Provia with a medium format camera.
Load the slides into a Rollei or Hasselblad projector. Sit back and prepare to have your mind expanded 🙂
raid
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For over 20 years I used exclusively slow slide film and had large prints made then. The resulting prints looked stunning to my eyes. Fujichrome 50 was my standard film while Fujichrome 100 was my fast film. At one stage, I added Velvia 50 to the mix of films. I avoided negative film.
It is interesting that some photographers are choosing slide film these days.
It is interesting that some photographers are choosing slide film these days.
Ted Striker
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Very very few choose slide.
CMur12
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This!
This is my preferred film format. I have 6x6 slides and I still have visions of getting an old Rollei 6x6 projector.
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Guth
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All very well stated. I've always figured that if I get some nice images on transparency film I have the added benefit of being able to view them projected on a screen. If the images aren't good enough to make the cut then I probably won't be looking at them much at all anyway.
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