squadgazzz
Newbie
Hello!
Can you please suggest me camera and lens with specific options.
I have $400 and I need body with 3200ASA and 35 or 28mm fast sharp lens.
I wanted Canonet ql17 giii, but I'm sure 40mm is not enough wide for me.
Any suggestion?
Can you please suggest me camera and lens with specific options.
I have $400 and I need body with 3200ASA and 35 or 28mm fast sharp lens.
I wanted Canonet ql17 giii, but I'm sure 40mm is not enough wide for me.
Any suggestion?
Bobbo
Well-known
I'd say a Canon P with a Jupiter-12 35mm/2.8 and a Sekonic L-208 clip-on meter. That'll be about $400.
Used CV Bessa R with a used 35mm Color Skopar... ?
ferider
Veteran
Hexar AF. It can see in the dark.
DamenS
Well-known
If it doesn't HAVE to be an RF, then I also recommend the Konica Hexar AF.
gb hill
Veteran
& the Canonet QL17GIII only goes up to 800asa. Bessa R2 or Bessa R as mentioned.
squadgazzz
Newbie
It's not a RF? So if I'll use it in manual mode, I will see something like just "OK" in viewfinder when I got the focus?
some people told me that bessa r and r2 are break too often.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
"Fast sharp" wider than 40mm and a camera that can meter at ISO 3200 in the dark (I'm assuming), all for $400??
Let us know!
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Although...if you can get a cheap light meter, and get a Kiev with a Jupiter 3 lens...then you got yourself something for about $400 or less. And they tend to be quiet (compared to all other curtain shutter cameras).
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
The HexarAF is a brilliant design, and an irreplaceable tool: no other camera/lens can give you that speed and focus reliability in low light, so it's the best option without even thinking of cost... The lens is superb, and moves inside, protected by a metal barrel... And for it's price, it's like getting the body and half the lens for free...
I keep mine with a 46-52 step-up-ring on, and in my pockets B+W 52mm ND8 and ND64 filters as a really important part of the camera: if you have fast film loaded, without NDs it's impossible to shoot in normal light with camera's 1/250 top shutter speed, so things get normal when NDs make it a 1/8000 shutter camera.
The rest of the options are slower because of focusing in low light, or metering.
Cheers,
Juan
I keep mine with a 46-52 step-up-ring on, and in my pockets B+W 52mm ND8 and ND64 filters as a really important part of the camera: if you have fast film loaded, without NDs it's impossible to shoot in normal light with camera's 1/250 top shutter speed, so things get normal when NDs make it a 1/8000 shutter camera.
The rest of the options are slower because of focusing in low light, or metering.
Cheers,
Juan
thegman
Veteran
3200 ASA is relatively unusual on the older cameras, but a Bessa is always worth a look although $400 for body and lens is pushing it a bit.
If it really must be a range finder, look at Bessas, or Canonet. If you'd be happy with an SLR, then the world is your oyster, you could get a nice Pentax, Canon, or Nikon body with more than one lens. You could likely get a faster lens too, than for the same money in RF land.
If it really must be a range finder, look at Bessas, or Canonet. If you'd be happy with an SLR, then the world is your oyster, you could get a nice Pentax, Canon, or Nikon body with more than one lens. You could likely get a faster lens too, than for the same money in RF land.
squadgazzz
Newbie
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
For close to $1250 you can get one of the best camera/lens sets ever: R3A & 40 1.4
That's the cheapest great RF set including metering and AE for fast ISO3200 shooting. Maybe $1000 used...
You can shoot with the ($450) HexAF at 1.4 too, (for faster speeds than f/2) setting it to -1... And the HexAF is better for fast and accurate focus in low light... Not a RF but in the VF you can see the focused point (distance) and avoid unwanted background focusing... It has the best AF system I've tried in my life.
But with the Bessa you can use lots of lenses...
Buy any of them: both are necessary...
I wouldn't invest in cheaper options or tools with less capabilities, because you'll end up needing or wanting what they do...
Cheers,
Juan
tonal1
Established
Hexar AF all the way. They are $400 all day long.
Also, almost any lens is sharp enough for 3200 wide open. The grain and contrast at high ISO's are big-time lens equalizers.
Maybe just get a Canonet and see if that is good enough (though not wide at 40mm of course) or something like it.
Also, almost any lens is sharp enough for 3200 wide open. The grain and contrast at high ISO's are big-time lens equalizers.
Maybe just get a Canonet and see if that is good enough (though not wide at 40mm of course) or something like it.
Brian Legge
Veteran
Not all Jupiter 12s fit physically in all Canon Ps. I'd be careful about this combo. It may go over you budget but I'd look at a Canon P and Canon 35mm 2.8 and skip the J12.
squadgazzz
Newbie
tonal1
Established
Yeah, you won't be focusing the Hexar AF manually. That said, you'll never find a faster focusing camera in practice. That camera is the most nimble little shooter I've ever used. Focus is very accurate, that is, once you mentally map close focus parallax correction.
Hexar is much faster to use than QL17. The lens is FAR superior too. QL17 is a terrific camera — the best designed compact RF with a great viewfinder. However, the lens is, IMO, highly overrated. It's pretty good, and certainly good enough at middle apertures for most work. It doesn't look very good wide open to my eyes. Hexar walks all over it at evrey aperture, and, I'm afraid, has a markedly more attractive "signature."