RFF - Let’s Not Lose Focus!

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I'm not clear what "spillage" would look like, but supposing it does happen occasionally (as it does now, from time to time), isn't that something that our kindly moderators could 'moderate'? I'm not trying to push anyone's 'buttons' here, I just thought it would be cool to have a little space here to talk about these issues that sure look like they're going to dominate our photographic lives in one way or another.

It'd be nice if I had a place here to report to the membership that (sometime in the future?) I was stopped on the streets of San Francisco by police who then confiscated my camera and fined me for taking pictures of tourists on the cable cars.

Of course, as explained earlier. Mods may attempt redirection, if they see the thread in real-time. Which is unlikely as we aren't reading all threads all day as they arrive...

Your example is a good one. That experience could certainly be described and discussed without injecting personal political commentary.

If the wording is such that it's going to invite an aggressive rebuttal, then that's not the wording to use.

We respectfully ask for self-moderation, quite simply.
 
I'm not clear what "spillage" would look like, but supposing it does happen occasionally (as it does now, from time to time), isn't that something that our kindly moderators could 'moderate'? I'm not trying to push anyone's 'buttons' here, I just thought it would be cool to have a little space here to talk about these issues that sure look like they're going to dominate our photographic lives in one way or another.

It'd be nice if I had a place here to report to the membership that (sometime in the future?) I was stopped on the streets of San Francisco by police who then confiscated my camera and fined me for taking pictures of tourists on the cable cars.

How does it feel to be the only man in the platoon who is in step?
 
You saw the end-product of the now closed thread, and commented about it's closure.

You cannot imagine how upset the now deleted posts made me after Charlie Kirk's assassination, and today- September 11th. 24 years ago I was across the River watching the Pentagon burn. One of my employees was supposed to be on that plane, later found he changed flights.
Thank you Brian for closing it.

I read it before it was re-edited and it was some of the most vile and despicable comments I have ever read.

I was going to report it and say something, but he updated it (I think overnight) to remove and soften his insensitive comments about the assassination.

Absolutely disgusting. I almost felt of never wanted to come here again if that thread continued. Has nothing to do with RFF and frankly, just a daily narcissistic rant.
 
I'm fine with whatever as long as we can acknowledge that decisions regarding what is considered "political" are themselves "political." 🙂.
 
Boojum, is that inappropriate, oversimplified corporate gobledegook? 😉

No, not corporate. Actually the words delivered by the drill sergeant to the one fellow in the platoon who could not fathom the military 30" step. The actual statement was, after walking up and shaking the fellow's hand, "Congratulations, soldier, you are the only man in the platoon who is in step." Response? "Aww, thanks, sarge." That's it, that's how it happened. The "In Step" soldier had dropped out of the first grade. We had to read the Christmas card to him that his wife had sent.

The point is that he truly believed that he was the only person in the platoon in step.

I cannot make it any clearer.
 
We are now picking nits.

Simply do not inject politics into your posts. If you want to talk about tariffs affecting prices, fine. Just leave it at that. Simply leave out the political commentary, we don't need political pundits, we only want photographic pundits.
This did not inject politics into the post. I am not a political pundit, never was, and wonder if I should take this as a personal attack. You seriously misconstrued my post.
 
I grew up immersed in some of the most horrific photography from WWII ever published. Photography is political.
This is pretty incorrect, photojournalists recording events are doing their job, not all the images are used to push an agenda…To me It’s like saying the camera guy taking pix of models coming down the runway is political.

Point of this thread is, we don’t need politics in a photography forum, it’s toxic.

Kiu
 
I guess, in summary, that the moderators of RFF want this to be purely a Photographic Equipment Forum, not a forum about Photography or Photographic Expression.
I'm all right with that, but I guess we better not discuss the cost of our equipment either.

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This did not inject politics into the post. I am not a political pundit, never was, and wonder if I should take this as a personal attack. You seriously misconstrued my post.

Sorry, I don't recall accusing you of that. It appears you misread. If you had actually injected politics then it would have been moderated. 😀
 
I guess, in summary, that the moderators of RFF want this to be purely a Photographic Equipment Forum, not a forum about Photography or Photographic Expression.
I'm all right with that, but I guess we better not discuss the cost of our equipment either.

No. The summary was posted earlier, here it is again for your reading pleasure:

We have no intention of eliminating topics relevant to photography, the site would have no reason to exist if that were the case. However we are simply going to moderate anything with a political slant. At our discretion.
 
I like to think of the RFF as a place where I can learn from the photographic experiences, both aesthetic and practical, of its members and discover interesting facts about equipment, most recently the CZ Jena Sonnar 50mm 1.5 T. There is surely enough in all that to fill many enjoyable hours of the day without the addition of contentious issues relating to to the very worrying and precarious state of affairs in the world socially and politically at the moment about which nothing can be done via this forum.
 
Oh dear. Yet more micro management.

(Google has interesting points to be made about this term, whether they apply here or not...)

We have an excellent long-standing thread in which a respected RFF member writes about many matters, not overly much about photography, mostly economics, many politically inspired and motivated. He mentions (or did mention, but this has now seemingly ceased, huh) tariffs. Will this be nobbled as well, to please the - well, who knows?

Somehow we will (again) survive this. A few disgruntled members will treat themselves to a vacation, long or short, from the site. Personally I've always thought these 'mini vacations' are most useful as they serve to refresh us and inspire us to return and write better posts.

One thing I do suspect here is, whether disappeared or not, they will all keep reading RFF. Ha!!

I hope all those absentees will eventually return. Especially Boojum, who is by far one of the best posters here for good and intelligent and well-articulated arguments. Huzzah!!

When the absentees have surfed the 'net a bit and discovered how awful most (I'm being polite here) other photo web sites are, they will return A few won't. The latter are often as not the most perceptive and challenging, and they will, at least by me, be missed.

But then in the long run we will all be gone from here anyway. Which seems to defeat my own argument, but it's the way things are. We come, we stay, we linger, we leave.

As I recall Lenin wrote something about how to get your neighbours salami by slicing it one small piece at a time. The neighbour dislikes it but eventually gets used to it. You then go back and slice off yet another piece. This seems appropriate in an analogy about destruction by a thousand small cuts. Which seems the way much of our planet is going...

(Is my last sentence here political? Will I get the flick for having written it? Will the masses be punished by having this thread locked?)

Anyway, all this now written, I will now be off on a long-overdue vacation.
 
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We have no intention of eliminating topics relevant to photography, the site would have no reason to exist if that were the case. However we are simply going to moderate anything with a political slant. At our discretion.

Ah, so your intent is simply to allow discussion of only that which you approve of, with no a priori guidelines for what you might find political or 'offensive' to your sensibilities.

Thanks for the clarification.

So, does a discussion of Robert Frank's seminal book The Americans have a political slant that you approve or disapprove of?

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