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jaapv

jaapv

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I noticed that there is no Leica SL dedicated section on RFF forums.
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I must confess that I struggle to see the relevance of an SL section on a Rangefinder Forum. As good a camera as it may be, it is an EVIL camera only linked to the M system by an adapter, as many cameras are.
Maybe the Bartender can lump it into the QXT subforum, but it begs the question: where is the S section and Leica Cine section, what about Panaleicas and shouldn't Sinar be included as well, and shouldn't each Leica system have its own section?
IMO that would rather dilute the forum brand and interest.
 
Well, if RFF wants to become a general camera forum , like for instance GetDpi forums, it should change its name.
 
jaapv said:
I must confess that I struggle to see the relevance of an SL section on a Rangefinder Forum. As good a camera as it may be, it is an EVIL camera only linked to the M system by an adapter, as many cameras are.
Maybe the Bartender can lump it into the QXT subforum, but it begs the question: where is the S section and Leica Cine section, what about Panaleicas and shouldn't Sinar be included as well, and shouldn't each Leica system have its own section?
IMO that would rather dilute the forum brand and interest.
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J,

I see your point, but then again why the huge Sony A7 section?

You are correct: it is an evil camera. LOL.

Cal
 
jaapv said:
I must confess that I struggle to see the relevance of an SL section on a Rangefinder Forum.
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This is only a rangefinder forum in name at this point. If you want it to be RFF only, this site will not do as well.
 
Yep - I know. But is it not diluting its relevance and USP this way? I mean, we have GetDpi Forums, Fred Miranda, DPreview, LuLa, etc, This way it becomes one of many.
 
jaapv said:
Yep - I know. But is it not diluting its relevance and USP this way? I mean, we have GetDpi Forums, Fred Miranda, DPreview, LuLa, etc, This way it becomes one of many.
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Jaap,

Again I see your point. Understand that I'm in the middle here, where the line has been crossed, but do we want to further dilute a great forum.

I think the strongest asset of RFF is that it is kind of a "Safe Place."

Cal
 
jaapv said:
I must confess that I struggle to see the relevance of an SL section on a Rangefinder Forum. As good a camera as it may be, it is an EVIL camera only linked to the M system by an adapter, as many cameras are.
Maybe the Bartender can lump it into the QXT subforum, but it begs the question: where is the S section and Leica Cine section, what about Panaleicas and shouldn't Sinar be included as well, and shouldn't each Leica system have its own section?
IMO that would rather dilute the forum brand and interest.
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Natural progression I guess.
 
jaapv said:
Maybe the forum should be structured more, like an RF part and a general part.
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RFF used to be more strictly for rangefinder topics. And there was a companion forum called DSLRXchange. It was never as busy as RFF, and was eventually retired in favor of broadening the focus of RFF (so to speak!). While still strong on rangefinders, we're pretty inclusive now, and try to remain a friendly polite place to hang out. :)
 
Yes, well, if it is to remain so, there should be a clear view of the target audience, which seems to be missing now. Just expanding without defining one's mission is prone to fail in the end, which would be a pity.
 
jaapv said:
Yes, well, if it is to remain so, there should be a clear view of the target audience, which seems to be missing now. Just expanding without defining one's mission is prone to fail in the end, which would be a pity.
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Jaapv,

I find it best to let the RFF owner, Stephen, ponder the intangibles of the RFF mission and what is apropos or not. If you must muse upon these things, please do so in a thread dedicated to that subject and leave this thread to share Leica SL usage information for those to whom it is a vital subject, lest there arise the usual dogmatic debates and this thread become useless.

thanks,
G
 
The point being that such information is better found in dedicated forums. Red Dot Forum comes to mind for real in-depth analysis. If it is vital (vital? for a camera? that comes with an owner's manual?) for you I would advise looking there. http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2016/01/leica-sl-typ-601-review-a-professional-mirrorless-camera/

Information on rangefinders is better found in this forum. It's a different world.

Thus it would be best, IMO, to regain focus by creating a rangefinder part and a general camera part.
Without user feedback, where would Stephen be?
 
jaapv said:
The point being that such information is better found in dedicated forums. Red Dot Forum comes to mind for real in-depth analysis. If it is vital (vital? for a camera? that comes with an owner's manual?) for you I would advise looking there. http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2016/01/leica-sl-typ-601-review-a-professional-mirrorless-camera/

Information on rangefinders is better found in this forum. It's a different world.

Thus it would be best, IMO, to regain focus by creating a rangefinder part and a general camera part.
Without user feedback, where would Stephen be?
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I'm helping others, including on Red Dot Forum, to understand and learn the SL, Jaapv. Because I have more experience using it than most. Some of those users are here.

But I'll leave further musings of this nature to you and others on this thread. I'm not concerned about this topic.

G
 
Doug said:
(...)While still strong on rangefinders, we're pretty inclusive now, and try to remain a friendly polite place to hang out. :)
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This.

I kinda like this place the way it is, talking about mission, target and focus destroy the fun part- you can share your passion with other maniacs while drinking morning coffee.
 
From my perspective, I use rangefinder cameras for a lot of things. I own a number of Leica cameras as well as other rangefinder cameras.

But I also enjoy other types of cameras and the ability to discuss these as well makes this forum very useful as well as very interesting for me. I do suspect that others feel the same way I do because this forum is a very busy place.

Lots of people are discussing lots of things on this forum and to limit its reach may limit the amount of interaction and discussion. To me that would be far more fatal to the forum's health than allowing it to expand a bit beyond its original charter.

I commonly visit and participate in another forum, which I won't name, that has stayed as true as possible to its original charter. There are a number of self-appointed moderators, well intended I'm sure, attempting to police the strict adherence to that charter. For me it introduces an element of tension and occasional bickering that I find off putting. I personally would hate to see that begin to happen here.

Of course, you could always limit the participation of those Nikon fan boys without breaking my heart...:D .

I say that in jest gentlemen. I own two or three or four Nikon cameras myself. :eek:
 
jaapv said:
Yep - I know. But is it not diluting its relevance and USP this way? I mean, we have GetDpi Forums, Fred Miranda, DPreview, LuLa, etc, This way it becomes one of many.
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One of the strengths of this forum is how helpful / friendly people are ....
 
As long as the dialogue is as interesting and civil as it's been in the past, who cares about subdivisions?
 
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