jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
It seems likely this is a JPEG-only feature (except for EXIF data) so shooting RAW will "turn it off" automatically.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Jon: Since none of us know the details of how this will be run, you might want to reserve comments until you have those details.
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RML
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Jorge Torralba said:Of course, shipping is extra but minimal.
Of course shipping is extra but it's hardly minimal for those outside the US.
From Holland we can't even send insured mail to the US via the regular post office, and insurance I'd want if I'm gonna send any expensive lens away. If I want insurance I'd have to opt for one of the international couriers, which will make shipping more expensive than getting the coding. Sending to Leica in Solms would be a cheaper option in that case, at $125 per lens for the coding plus only a few tenners for insured shipping.
J. Borger
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I welcome the idea .......... but it does not make sens to spend Euro 4000 on a camera, EUro 2000 on an average Leica lens and try to save a few bucks on the coding.
I am also not convinced the coding is necessary until further specifications and or results from the M8 are available. So no dots on any of my lenses for now!
I am also not convinced the coding is necessary until further specifications and or results from the M8 are available. So no dots on any of my lenses for now!
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
6 bits total 64 possible values.
Avotius
Some guy
this is interesting news and very shocking for me, how many strings did you have to pull at leica to get them to go along with this?????
Jorge, this is a great idea.
Wow, this is super!!!!!
Though I doubt I will be buying an M8 having my 35 and 50 Crons encoded is a real consideration.
Wow, this is super!!!!!
Though I doubt I will be buying an M8 having my 35 and 50 Crons encoded is a real consideration.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Actually 192 possibilities. The frame selector will act like a "three-way bit" It has to, to accomodate for the tri-elmar.Kevin said:6 bits total 64 possible values.
Mark Norton
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J. Borger said:I welcome the idea .......... but it does not make sens to spend Euro 4000 on a camera, EUro 2000 on an average Leica lens and try to save a few bucks on the coding.
I agree, it seems ridiculous to try to save, what, $50 - $60 per lens. I can tell you that the dots are not just painted on, there are depressions milled into the bayonet ring and filled with paint and there isn't a trace of roughness in the finish. Run your finger over them and you can feel them for sure but there's no metal "burr" around the depressions.
This scheme sounds like they will be taking the mount off, milling the depressions and filling them with paint. You're going to want the finish to be as good as Leica's to avoid the lens mount being scratched.
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Mark Norton
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jaapv said:Actually 192 possibilities. The frame selector will act like a "three-way bit" It has to, to accomodate for the tri-elmar.
Japp, I think the Tr-Elmar is a special case where they will use the setting of the frame selector in addition to reading the code. I'd be surprised if they gave the same 6 bit code to more than one lens type. It looks like about half the codes are used from the outset.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Sure, but the electronics will be able to "see" the selector.
Mark Norton
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rover said:Jorge, this is a great idea.
Wow, this is super!!!!!
Though I doubt I will be buying an M8 having my 35 and 50 Crons encoded is a real consideration.
Oh please! What's the point of having the lenses coded if you are not planning to buy an M8?
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Mark Norton said:Oh please! What's the point of having the lenses coded if you are not planning to buy an M8?
Bragging rights?
Mark Norton
Well-known
jaapv said:Sure, but the electronics will be able to "see" the selector.
Yes, but I expect the only time they will look at the selector to identify the lens type is with the Tri-Elmar. For other lenses, the unique 6 bit code will be enough.
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varjag
Guest
Having a possibility to encode ZM lenses is a big enough advantage of 3rd party ecoding service. I can't see why people object to that; if you think only Leica can properly polish a piece of alloy in this world, it's still there 
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
RML said:Of course shipping is extra but it's hardly minimal for those outside the US.
From Holland we can't even send insured mail to the US via the regular post office, and insurance I'd want if I'm gonna send any expensive lens away. If I want insurance I'd have to opt for one of the international couriers, which will make shipping more expensive than getting the coding. Sending to Leica in Solms would be a cheaper option in that case, at $125 per lens for the coding plus only a few tenners for insured shipping.
If you give your lenses to an authorized dealer you don't have to insure them and they will be sent by collection by Leica or though the importers channels.
anselwannab
Well-known
I still can't believe that there are no patent issues.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Jorge, Best correct the typo now its on the main page...
back alley
IMAGES
never ceases to amaze me what will cause a stir in this place...
Mark Norton said:Oh please! What's the point of having the lenses coded if you are not planning to buy an M8?
Oh, I was planning on borrowing your M8.
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