Archlich
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I need that built-in flash more than the viewfinder...
Ricoh GR III?
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SR stands for Shake Reduction - I found this URL to be very useful :angel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_abbreviations_in_photography
Is your source a different person or site than the sources that have been known for some time? (Noki****a, Dpreview's forum ...or PentaxForum'sForum ?😀)
Archlich
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It will not be under $700. Ricoh is not a charity venue. Let it be profitable so we’d see a 4th generation in the future, if you please?
mod2001
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same here, don't like dispays and/or external finder, was the main reason why I sold my GRII.
Jürgen
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I wasn't sure how much it typically launched at. I bought mine a year and a half ago for $600 which I felt was a great deal. What did the GRii launch at?
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Landberg
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All i need is a dust free sensor.
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The Fuji XF10 was announced in July for 500euros, Ricoh will certainly use the same off-the-shelf 24Mpxls sensor from Sony.
The Fuji bad guys may have tried to cut Ricoh short on the price and earlier announcement. Still, Ricoh's marketing team will not be permitted to ignore that datapoint.
Archlich
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The XF10 is clearly an entry level camera. Together with the X-A5 and the X-T100, with which it shares most of the hardwares, The XF10 completes somewhat a budget version of the X-Pro2/X-T2/X100F trio. If it's ever comparable to a GR II (which was X70 level), it's because the former is much newer. Not so fair I'd say if there actually will be a GR III.
Traditionally the GR Digitals were considered expensive at $599 ($699 for the III and IV) for their fixed lens and 1/1.7'' sensors. They gained a cult following nonetheless thanks to the supreme handling. Both the GR and the GR II were $799 when new. They reigned as bargains since they have large sensors and beat the competitions (the Coolpix A and the X70) by such a large margin.
Camera prices had been on steady rise, so it won't be surprising if the GR III is more expensive than ever. But the GR series, since day one with the GR1 which retailed for 90,000 yen in 1996 ($1,300 today), was never meant to be cheap.
jsrockit
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Archlich
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To put it more precisely: the same bayer sensor, processor, AF system, screen (sans the articulating part), battery, etc....you know what I mean.
If the aperture can be changed in the pseudo-"snap" mode I'd be seriously into one. Unfortunately not so. Rumor has it that Ricoh had patented the method.
jsrockit
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True, but in a smaller shell.
Yeah, maybe we can hope for something in a firmware update... unless what you say about Ricoh is true.
ramosa
B&W
Weather-proofing and new sensor, and I’ll buy one. It’s the only pocketable camera that I’d ever want.
emraphoto
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I have always had a ricoh gr. Be it the the gr1 or one of the digital incarnations. Currently a grii.
Short of a hotshoe attachable evf, akin to the Olympus XZ-2 or Panasonic LX-7 (insert similarly capable digicam here), i cant recommend anything else. The current sensor is well beyond my quality threshold (credit to Roger) and i have printed/sold many frames from it.
Short of a hotshoe attachable evf, akin to the Olympus XZ-2 or Panasonic LX-7 (insert similarly capable digicam here), i cant recommend anything else. The current sensor is well beyond my quality threshold (credit to Roger) and i have printed/sold many frames from it.
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There should not be such thing as a rumor when discussing a patent. Either its true, and the patent is certainly available on a patent website; or it is a false rumor.
Scottboarding
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What I heard was that they patented the term "snap focus" or something along those lines. Snap Focus is basically just zone focusing which I doubt would be able to patent since it's a technique, not a product.
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The European trademark DB shows that Ricoh registered the term "Snap Search" in 2013.
Archlich
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The case is I don't know. What I do know is, there seems to be no other company offering the "snap" method Ricoh has on the GR cameras. It clearly is superior for any camera that focuses by-wire; it's just software so should be something as simple as a firmware update, but no. The XF10's "snap" mode can only do f/8 at 2 meters and f/5.6 at 5 meters, and nothing else. A bit disappointing it is, but Fuji went this way nonetheless. The "rumor", as I understand it, is there to justify these otherwise counter intuitive decisions. Maybe it should be called "wishful thinking" instead.
shawn
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Ricoh has had a similar (simplified) mode on other Pentax cameras. The WG-3 will autofocus with a half button press and then shutter release. If you just mash down the button it goes to Pan focus (hyper focal) and shoots the shot.
If Ricoh patented they should have had to do that when they introduced the feature. I think that was in the GR1 which was around '96. If the patent was in the same time frame it would likely be expired by now.
Shawn
If Ricoh patented they should have had to do that when they introduced the feature. I think that was in the GR1 which was around '96. If the patent was in the same time frame it would likely be expired by now.
Shawn
Jamie Pillers
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The new Fuji XF10 camera has a similar feature, implemented nicely. Its called "Snapshot". I have it set to one of the function buttons.. press it once and the focus distance is set at 5 meters at f5.6, another press and it goes to 2 meters and f8, another press and the feature is turned off. I like it. 🙂
