Scapevision
Well-known
I don't understand why any mention of GR always brings out gritty **** processed pictures on the internet. It's an amazing camera that makes colour photos that most of the time look better than any Canon/Nikon/Sony/etc. Them idiot reviewers gotta stop processing their photos.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Ricoh isn't doing themselves any favors with the folks doing early reviews:
https://www.thephoblographer.com/2019/02/21/special-report-shooting-street-photography-with-the-ricoh-gr-iii-in-nyc/
The photos look horrible. Not the camera's fault, but they really need to get these things in the hands of some better photographers. This is the second one I've seen in the last day with just really crappy photos.
Not exactly highlighting the IBIS or new sensor
I see nothing wrong with those pictures. I see more crap on RFF on color side and this famous photog book full of pingunes is worse bw comparing to bw in review.
I don't understand why any mention of GR always brings out gritty **** processed pictures on the internet. It's an amazing camera that makes colour photos that most of the time look better than any Canon/Nikon/Sony/etc. Them idiot reviewers gotta stop processing their photos.
I think it’s because it is (wrongly) associated with Daido Moriyama who hasn’t used one in many, many years.
I don't understand why any mention of GR always brings out gritty **** processed pictures on the internet. It's an amazing camera that makes colour photos that most of the time look better than any Canon/Nikon/Sony/etc. Them idiot reviewers gotta stop processing their photos.
Because reviewers are rarely great photographers.
nightfly
Well-known
Blame Daido Moriyama.
None of these guys have realized that he's moved on to color (and other cameras, I hear).
None of these guys have realized that he's moved on to color (and other cameras, I hear).
DougFord
on the good foot
There's additional image samples posted by Ricoh.
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/gr-3/ex/index.html
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/gr-3/ex/index.html
BlackXList
Well-known
Ricoh isn't doing themselves any favors with the folks doing early reviews:
https://www.thephoblographer.com/2019/02/21/special-report-shooting-street-photography-with-the-ricoh-gr-iii-in-nyc/
The photos look horrible. Not the camera's fault, but they really need to get these things in the hands of some better photographers. This is the second one I've seen in the last day with just really crappy photos.
Not exactly highlighting the IBIS or new sensor
Gampat is one of the worst photo writers around, so I'm not exactly surprised this doesn't do it justice
BlackXList
Well-known
I've now read it and marvelled at how he missed focus in almost all the shots too, that takes some doing.
my current GR kit is a GR with the 21mm lens, and a GRII for the 28mm and looking at these photos, I don't need to think about upgrading yet.
my current GR kit is a GR with the 21mm lens, and a GRII for the 28mm and looking at these photos, I don't need to think about upgrading yet.
retinax
Well-known
What exactly are you expecting from web sized sample photos anyway? These are bad, yes, maybe downsampling gone wrong, but one can't tell a difference between any, even the oldest APS-C sensor pics at these sizes if they're resized and sharpened OK.
But why do we all care, it's just 1/2 camera anyway...
But why do we all care, it's just 1/2 camera anyway...
Archiver
Veteran
Hopefully Ming Thein will review the GR III and show what it can do.
I already have a GR, albeit in need of repair. Am not really sure how much better a GR III is going to be than the GR once it's repaired, although I like the sounds of many of the improvements, like 24mp sensor, stabilization, smaller body more like the GRD III which I love, etc.
I'll probably get one in another couple of years when the price is much lower, and enjoy my GR until then.
I already have a GR, albeit in need of repair. Am not really sure how much better a GR III is going to be than the GR once it's repaired, although I like the sounds of many of the improvements, like 24mp sensor, stabilization, smaller body more like the GRD III which I love, etc.
I'll probably get one in another couple of years when the price is much lower, and enjoy my GR until then.
bayernfan
Well-known
Gampat is one of the worst photo writers around, so I'm not exactly surprised this doesn't do it justice
his articles really are a mess. it's bewildering that he gets invited to all the new camera launches/play dates given the amateur-hour presentation of his website.
nzeeman
Well-known
why so many bad words about that guy-its pretty decent review and covers real life use pretty ok.. he didnt try to put sugar on photos-just did them as any amateur would do which gives us much more info...
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
why so many bad words about that guy-its pretty decent review and covers real life use pretty ok.. he didnt try to put sugar on photos-just did them as any amateur would do which gives us much more info...
I checked GRII monochrome and BW Flickr groups yesterday. Bw in review is normal bw, comparing to the crap from GRII users on Flickr. Maybe some local keyboard warriors prefers amateurs on Flickr style. I don't know. I'm scared now to check what they do with GRII on Flickr.
why so many bad words about that guy-its pretty decent review and covers real life use pretty ok.. he didnt try to put sugar on photos-just did them as any amateur would do which gives us much more info...
I`m offended when someone talks about a camera (as a supposed expert) when their photography clearly shows can`t make an interesting photo. As far as technical quality... there are not too many cameras these days that are capable of making a technically bad photograph. The GR`s image quality will be great no doubt.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I`m offended when someone talks about a camera (as a supposed expert) when their photography clearly shows can`t make an interesting photo. As far as technical quality... there are not too many cameras these days that are capable of making a technically bad photograph. The GR`s image quality will be great no doubt.
This thread is amusing me with rate of comments like yours.
I can't recall any gear reviewer capable of interesting photos. Huff, Rockwell, Hamish, anyone. No interesting photos. Why?
Simple.
It is not what easy. To grab camera you don't know and do Magnum style within couple of hours or day, two.
nzeeman
Well-known
I`m offended when someone talks about a camera (as a supposed expert) when their photography clearly shows can`t make an interesting photo. As far as technical quality... there are not too many cameras these days that are capable of making a technically bad photograph. The GR`s image quality will be great no doubt.
lets not go ot too much, but he don't need to be talented photographer and make interesting photos to be able to review camera. review is usually made to test all the features and comment on them and to provide us with info on problems or potential problems. which he does and he does it nice and detailed... that said- gr iii looks very fine from what i see.... if i had that money i would surely consider it as an everyday camera..
lets not go ot too much, but he don't need to be talented photographer and make interesting photos to be able to review camera. review is usually made to test all the features and comment on them and to provide us with info on problems or potential problems.
Sure, but can you truly trust someone to tell you what they think about a camera when their photography shows they are inexperienced? How do you know if it is truly the camera or if it is their shortcoming?
Dogman
Veteran
While this particular website is many times barely literate I have to point out that the reviewer does say in the comments that he only had the camera for an hour or so. But this is the quality of information we seem to be getting today when everyone is an self proclaimed expert and anyone can have their own website.
Out to Lunch
Ventor
I don't get it...a $900 camera without a viewfinder. Maybe a gamble: cut cost and please the mobile phone crowd.
I don't get it...a $900 camera without a viewfinder. Maybe a gamble: cut cost and please the mobile phone crowd.
No, it is just how the camera has always been made (in digital form anyway) and it has done well for them. No need to change on this camera.
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