willie_901
Veteran
Rob,
There is no way Apple will reverse it's decision regarding Aperture.
I am sad to hear about your frustrating experience with LR. The last person on earth I would pay attention to is Scott Kelby (well there are others in the WWW photo world who might be a trivially less useful in my view).
I realize you are extremely unhappy with LR. But the thing is, the LR Library simply mirrors the OS X directory structure on your system that existed before you installed LR. You should not have to change or reorganize anything. You only have to use the LR Library once to find the top level Folder for your all your raw files.
There trick is this: after one starts to use LR, and LR has learned where the original image folders/files are on OS X, then image files/Folders should only be moved and, or reorganized using the LR Library (drag and drop as well as renaming is easy to do in the LR Library Panel). If images are moved using the Finder, LR losses track of where they went. LR can find them, but this is just extra work. Importing new raw files requires you to select or create a OS X destination Folder. Again, the LR Import Panel simply mimics any operation one could do with the Finder.
Some people kept rendered copies exported from other programs (TIFFs/JPEGs) in Folders separate from the original raw files. In this case switching to LR is tedious because the LR's workflow is most efficient when all versions are in the same Folder. Instead of using separate Folders for exported images, LR used Collections to virtually organize rendered images. Collections do not affect the OS X Folder/file structure. In the context of LR, the main purpose of exporting images is for digital sharing, printing or using third-party programs to further modify the image. Otherwise one simply creates virtual copies to render a raw image in different ways.
The LR Catalog has nothing to do with the original images. Instead the Catalog is essentially a database that contains every image modification ever executed in LR. The Catalog also contains all the information used for Collections. When LR displays a previously rendered raw it loads the original raw, and applies all the parameters you used to render a virtual image based on the Catalog record.
There is no way Apple will reverse it's decision regarding Aperture.
I am sad to hear about your frustrating experience with LR. The last person on earth I would pay attention to is Scott Kelby (well there are others in the WWW photo world who might be a trivially less useful in my view).
I realize you are extremely unhappy with LR. But the thing is, the LR Library simply mirrors the OS X directory structure on your system that existed before you installed LR. You should not have to change or reorganize anything. You only have to use the LR Library once to find the top level Folder for your all your raw files.
There trick is this: after one starts to use LR, and LR has learned where the original image folders/files are on OS X, then image files/Folders should only be moved and, or reorganized using the LR Library (drag and drop as well as renaming is easy to do in the LR Library Panel). If images are moved using the Finder, LR losses track of where they went. LR can find them, but this is just extra work. Importing new raw files requires you to select or create a OS X destination Folder. Again, the LR Import Panel simply mimics any operation one could do with the Finder.
Some people kept rendered copies exported from other programs (TIFFs/JPEGs) in Folders separate from the original raw files. In this case switching to LR is tedious because the LR's workflow is most efficient when all versions are in the same Folder. Instead of using separate Folders for exported images, LR used Collections to virtually organize rendered images. Collections do not affect the OS X Folder/file structure. In the context of LR, the main purpose of exporting images is for digital sharing, printing or using third-party programs to further modify the image. Otherwise one simply creates virtual copies to render a raw image in different ways.
The LR Catalog has nothing to do with the original images. Instead the Catalog is essentially a database that contains every image modification ever executed in LR. The Catalog also contains all the information used for Collections. When LR displays a previously rendered raw it loads the original raw, and applies all the parameters you used to render a virtual image based on the Catalog record.
Dwig
Well-known
Personally, I find Kelby's info useful, but only since I'm pretty competent with Lr. I would NEVER point a new user to his site though. His opinions, often stated as fact or rules, don't fit everyone's usage.
My primary recommendation for new users is the high priestess of Lr, Julianne Kost (officially Adobe's "Principal Digital Imaging Evangelist" for Ps & Lr). Her presentations are available on Adobe TV and on her own site.
dasuess
Nikon Freak
For the past month I have been using the trial version of LR and have now moved all my images to LR and purchased the CC Photography subscription. I did not used the LR Aperture Importer. I still have the work of re-processing images that were originally PP in Aperture, but that will be done over time. I plan on keeping Aperture and its library around until I no longer need it for reference as I re-process images in LR. As for the Photos app, I will probably use that for sharing images since virtually all my family and friends have Apple devices.
willie_901
Veteran
I now use iPhoto and will use Photos to mainly share images as well.
Another use is producing and maintaining web sites using the Sandbox App. Sandbox and some other OS X apps include a GUI for browsing and adding inmates from iPhoto Albums. I export appropriate JPEGs I want to use with these OS X integrated apps from LR Collections to iPhoto. Then adding them to the web site is more convenient and flexible compared tousing Finder Folders to organize the photos.
dasuess
Nikon Freak
My transition from Aperture to LR was completed a while ago. At the time I made the decision not to export copies of the post-processed images and import into LR - I just imported all the raw images and film scans. I have been spending my spare time (after all, I am retired ;-) re-processing raw images and film scans in LR. Not sure about the re-processed raw files, but I think the re-processed BW film scans are turning out much better, especially the spotting. I loved Aperture, but I definitely think the healing/cloning is much better in LR.
I've been done with film for quite awhile, but this is giving me the itch to fire up my Nikon F again. And now I have all that MF Nikkor glass that I bought to use on my Df...
I've been done with film for quite awhile, but this is giving me the itch to fire up my Nikon F again. And now I have all that MF Nikkor glass that I bought to use on my Df...