espressogeek
Well-known
What do you guys/gals think of the price of the mamiya 7 II for 900 pounds? This is about 1600 - 1700 usd correct? This seems like a substancial savings for those of us who are fense sitting at the moment trying to figure out if film will be around long enough to make the investment.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
You probably have to add VAT to that price (17%) !!!
kully
Happy Snapper
Not if you're in the US.
peter_n
Veteran
There's a (or there was) a Mamiya 7 II at either B&H or Adorama for $1100. It looked like a good buy.
Flyfisher Tom
Well-known
Kevin said:
No, not if you are in the US.
I have purchased numerous items from Robert White before (I'm based in the US), and it is a top-notch vendor.
The current price is a fantastic steal for the real estate of 6x7 in a RF camera. Think of the Leica M7 on steroids, and you've got the Mamiya M7 II. Just the viewfinder alone is worth it. I wish my M6TTLs had the Mamiya M7 viewfinder in them. Not to mention the nearly silent leafshutter lenses.
If you are on the fence, you should go for it before it is gone.
ampguy
Veteran
Seems like an OK deal. How do these compare with the Fujis?
sf
Veteran
ampguy said:
better. The Mamiyas are better cameras in every respect. IMHO. Except negative size if you choose Fuji 6x9.
ampguy
Veteran
why is it better?
why is it better?
can I get a digital back for it?
why is it better?
can I get a digital back for it?
shutterflower said:
sf
Veteran
ampguy said:
h aha ha
better glass, interchangeable lenses, meter, size (more compact), etc. I can't think of any reason to buy the Fuji 6x7 except if you like how Fuji glass writes light.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
UK is not EU, so why do I have to pay VAT in Germany?
That sucks !
That sucks !
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
UK is EU. Has been for many years.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Correct, I keep mixing up the UK, Switzerland and the Vatican City.
Flyfisher Tom
Well-known
ampguy said:
That would defeat the relative compact RF feature of the Mamiya, don't you think?
If you want a digital back, get a Hasselblad and you can drag that boulder around
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Kevin said:
Easy, Geneva is in the UK, the Pope lives in Switzerland and Tony Blair runs the Vatican. I think. LOL
nemjo
Avatar Challenge
Kevin said:
As UK is EU you have to pay VAT in the UK.
But if you buy outside EU, the customs make you pay VAT - in Germany.
Normally it's not spareable... only when authorities shut the eyes...:bang:
nemjo
mdelevie
Established
on the original question of whether or not the Mamiya 7ii is a wise purchase at this discounted price, my impression of it is not as positive as most here. I tried out both the 6 and 7 rangefinders, and found them not as attractive (for me) as the Bronica RF system. Yes, I wish the Bronica shot a 6x7 cm frame, but otherwise I'm extremely happy with it. To tell the truth, I can't really justify the desire for a larger negative, since I rarely make prints larger than 8x12 -- it's just a "bigger is better" thing, part of being a guy, perhaps. Maybe if you shoot very high speed film, the grain will be less obvious with the reduced enlargement from 6x7.
Back on the cameras, the Mamiyas I tried seemed flimsy, I was underwhelmed with the metering, though others claim meter accuracy as one of their strong points. I have three badly underexposed rolls to show for a M6 tryout. The rangefinder patch in the viewfinder wasn't as crisp and sharp as in the Bronica, and I found it hard to find the right eye location to get the best contrast on the split image. (I'm nearsighted and wear glasses; your mileage may vary)
I like the automatic film-protection curtain on the Bronica, and it turns out I do change lenses fairly often.
Hmm, let's see, in the Mamiya's favor, there's a wider suite of lenses, and all of the lenses are currently available without much drama. Can't say that about either of the long lenses for the Bronica RF. The Mamiya lenses are reported to be excellent, really first rate, particularly the ultra-wide 43mm.
Good luck with your decision. I hope this is helpful.
Mark
Back on the cameras, the Mamiyas I tried seemed flimsy, I was underwhelmed with the metering, though others claim meter accuracy as one of their strong points. I have three badly underexposed rolls to show for a M6 tryout. The rangefinder patch in the viewfinder wasn't as crisp and sharp as in the Bronica, and I found it hard to find the right eye location to get the best contrast on the split image. (I'm nearsighted and wear glasses; your mileage may vary)
I like the automatic film-protection curtain on the Bronica, and it turns out I do change lenses fairly often.
Hmm, let's see, in the Mamiya's favor, there's a wider suite of lenses, and all of the lenses are currently available without much drama. Can't say that about either of the long lenses for the Bronica RF. The Mamiya lenses are reported to be excellent, really first rate, particularly the ultra-wide 43mm.
Good luck with your decision. I hope this is helpful.
Mark
Adam Muir
say no to trash buttons
I bought my Fujica 6 X 9 cheaply , a lot cheaper than a Mamiya RF , hard to find lenses but they are out there. 8 shots a roll is not many but aside from that it is great.
Flyfisher Tom
Well-known
Just remember, the price you quoted is for both the Mamiya 7II body AND the 80mm lens