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I purchase all of my film/paper and chemicals from the web from B&H in NYC. I live in Youngstown Ohio and can not buy anything here. I have read a lot about Rodinal here at RFF and would like to try it. B&H sells the new Rodinal if you want to call it that but it can not be ordered nonlinear in stirs purchase only. Is there another way to get it on the web.

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Please pay a little attention on the instruction of APH09. It probably is a different concentration from R09 or Adonal. So the dilution may be a bit different.

Apparently they sell 2 brands of Rodinal Clones

ADOX, Adolux APH09 is still listed. At $7.99 per 500ml
"Based on the recipes of the original Rodinal formulation from 1918"

This is 1/2 the price of the Adonal variant.
 
Adonal is the original Agfa Rodinal formule, also sold under Rodinal /R09 one shot.

Robert, the first part of your sentence is right, but the second part is wrong.
R09 One Shot, bottled by compard, is not the original Rodinal formula anymore. For about two years now a Rodinal clone with slightly different formula is bottled as R09 One Shot. It is produced by Tetenal for compard.

For those who want the real original Rodinal formula: Adox Adonal is the way to go.

Cheers, Jan
 
Robert, the first part of your sentence is right, but the second part is wrong.
R09 One Shot, bottled by compard, is not the original Rodinal formula anymore. For about two years now a Rodinal clone with slightly different formula is bottled as R09 One Shot. It is produced by Tetenal for compard.

For those who want the real original Rodinal formula: Adox Adonal is the way to go.

Cheers, Jan

Jan has this changed recently? I have a two year old bottle (well several) that states this:
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That it is the same Rodinal produced in the same factory–has this changed?
 
You can mix the original Rodinal yourself. here is the formula:
Solution A: Water 125F/52C 750ml
P-Aminophenol Hydrochloride 100g
Potassium metabisulfite 300g
Cold Water to bring to 1000ml

Solution B: Cold water 300ml
Sodium Hydroxide 200g
cold water to make 1000ml

Always use cold water when mixing sodium hydroxide due to heat reaction
Suggested procedure is to mix it in a metal jar that is in a cold solution with ice cubes.
Also mix the A to B when the A is completely cooled and do the mix also in container that stays in a ice cube cooled water bath. Mix the A and B very slowly and let the temperature to level off before continuing the mix. Always wear gloves and eye protection. Sodium hydroxide is a stuff you should never put in the drain...
 
To know what you have, current Rodinal or variant is tea colored.

The original or variant is black and more concentrated.

Results are very much the same, but use different dilutions and times.
 
My R09 is the same as the one pictured here. It's less than 6 months old. And I have only ever used it as I would Rodinal. Not experienced any differences. It has gone a bit darker since I got it. But I wouldn't have characterised it as tea when fresh, more like coffee.
 
Actually it's the para-aminophenol that you should not put down the drain. NaOH (or more commonly KOH) is the main ingredient of lye based drain unclogger.

Actually I was going to write:--- to get on your skin.. but thought it be better to say in the drain. whatever... I guess Rodinal would have it difficult to get a permit for "amateur chemical" nowdays, if it would be introduced today
 
As long as we're on the topic -

what's the contrast difference between 1:25 and 1:50? Or among other dilutions?
Overall contrast is lower with more dilution but "micro contrast"- edge acutance- is greater. The BEST use of rodinal is the modern slow emulsions and 1:100 dilution and one hour stand development- no moving of the developer after initial 30 second agitation.
 
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