Rolleicord V Shutter Trigger stuck

[Jake Mongey]

2nd repair post today and I am going to pretend the amount of repairs isnt making me want to cry:

I have just fixed a sticky shutter on my rolleicord V and upon reassembling the camera I am stuck at the stage of placing the lens assembly back on the shims which move it back and forth during focusing.

The problem is the switch (for lack of a better word) at the bottom of the camera which cocks and fires the shutter gets stuck when the front assembly is put back into the camera. It fires fine when the front assembly is taken out of the camera and the problem is from this arm hitting the frame of the camera and being unable to move fully:

Heres an Image of the arm in question with the arrow showing direction of movement:


Here is where the front assembly is inserted into. The red X marks the point of contact with the arrow showing the direction of the arm travels:


There is obviously a configuration that allows this arm to travel but I cannot find it for the life of me. And until I figure this out I cannot trip the shutter.

Does anyone know what to do?

Images sourced from the repair guide at http://www.maxpierson.me/2015/10/09/rolleicord-shutter-repair/

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

I have to admit I am having trouble working out why it would be an issue Jake because I can't ever recall having the problem. You can try moving the struts out to the close setting, the fork visible in the right of shot next to your fingers has to go over the peg that connects with the wind lock you might find it easier to mate them that way. Otherwise, I am thinking it is something really simple, Ie you have the body ready to wind on and the shutter cocked, or vice versa. Try opening the back to reset the counter mechanism and introducing the board to the struts with the back off, perhaps? If it was functional when dismantled it won't be anything complex, they're not as involved as a Flex.

You notice you're missing a small shim on one corner right? If it wasn't there when the board came off: fine, but if one was present you will want to replace it.

You'll need to play with the fastening screws onto the struts as well quite possibly. Depending on what focus position the struts are set to and the order in which you tighten the four screws on occasion the struts can bind a little, which might also make the board move unevenly Eg off infinity. So just make a point of checking the action of the focus knob and board after you have reinstalled it, and if it's hesitating on one side etc back the screws off, ensure the board is centred on the struts and finesse until all is sliding smoothly and freely. Voice of experience.
Cheers,
Brett

 

[Dan Daniel]

When the back baffle on the shutter slides into the felt trap underneath the silver aluminum dish attached to the body, the lens board can really only rotate around this point, not move laterally. Sounds as if your lens board is rotated too far towards the corner where the lever is hitting the side- the red X in your second photo. So follow Brett's advice and play with the positioning of the focusing rails and the lens board. I find focusing in and out a few times with the screws slightly loose gets the rails to settle in.

I've done a few Vs and am in the middle of doing two of them right now. Never had this problem. One thing I've learned with Rolleis is to never assume that parts are wrong or need to be modified until I have disassembled and reassembled many times with very careful studying. ALmost always I am doing something wrong, not that Rollei made a design mistake or that a part is flawed.

 

[rick oleson]

That last bit is always good advice: whatever the camera, they managed to get it assembled and working at the factory with these parts, chances are really good that they're correct.

I have never had this particular problem, but I have encountered other things where a lens board shim shifted slightly out of position interfered with focusing or some other function. Some of the fits are pretty loose before the screws are tightened down.

 

[Jake Mongey]

Ive finally figured out the problem, What I thought was the shutter firing mechanism striking the side wasn't correct. It turns out that one one of the focusing "bars" The double exposure prevention mechanism was jammed in a position it shouldnt be so when the lens board was inserted part of the firing mechanism that was supposed to couple with the double exposure mechanism was behind the jammed part and this was causing the shutter to not fire.

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

Ive finally figured out the problem, What I thought was the shutter firing mechanism striking the side wasn't correct. It turns out that one one of the focusing "bars" The double exposure prevention mechanism was jammed in a position it shouldnt be so when the lens board was inserted part of the firing mechanism that was supposed to couple with the double exposure mechanism was behind the jammed part and this was causing the shutter to not fire.

Well done, Jake. I knew it would be something like that. The Rolleicord film advance does wear, eventually, but it's a reliable mechanism that usually works fine, when it's been assembled correctly.
Cheers,
Brett