Rolleiflex T masquerading as a prototype 2.8 E3

Thing that makes me hesitate is that seller has very good feedback. Also, he said he got provenance papers:

Offered to you is this VERY RARE ROLLEI ROLLEIFLEX 2,8 E3 PROTOTYPE which has got serial number : 0000000 !! It comes from the former Rollei Museum and is also coming with a signed authenticity certificate by the former Rollei President incl.

Prototype may mean anything from proof of concept to finished product and anything on the middle.

Marcelo
 
Marcelo, I'm pleased you at least received a reply, which is more than the silence that greeted my email.

I am convinced that this camera cannot possibly be a genuine E3 prototype. Why would any manufacturer, especially one with the engineering ability and model line of Rollei, use a Rollei T as a prototype for an E3? Rollei had already produced a 2.8 E and a 2.8 E2 that could have been used as the basis for any prototype E3. At least this would provide the lens board designed to accommodate the 2.8 lens. The Rollei T and 2.8 E range of cameras could not be more dissimilar, with the former having a f3.5 lens, different shutter release, position of the flash socket and a totally different mechanism for enabling the shutter speeds and apertures to be seen at the top of the viewing lens housing.

My guess is that someone at Rollei had completed the assembly of a T from odd bits from the parts bin. Whatever the reason or whatever the seller was told, I am surprised that any experienced dealer would present this camera to market at the asking price shown, when a modicum of research would sound some very loud alarm bells.

Nevertheless, an interesting Rollei listing!

Ray
 
Marcelo, I'm pleased you at least received a reply, which is more than the silence that greeted my email.

I am convinced that this camera cannot possibly be a genuine E3 prototype. Why would any manufacturer, especially one with the engineering ability and model line of Rollei, use a Rollei T as a prototype for an E3? Rollei had already produced a 2.8 E and a 2.8 E2 that could have been used as the basis for any prototype E3. At least this would provide the lens board designed to accommodate the 2.8 lens. The Rollei T and 2.8 E range of cameras could not be more dissimilar, with the former having a f3.5 lens, different shutter release, position of the flash socket and a totally different mechanism for enabling the shutter speeds and apertures to be seen at the top of the viewing lens housing.

My guess is that someone at Rollei had completed the assembly of a T from odd bits from the parts bin. Whatever the reason or whatever the seller was told, I am surprised that any experienced dealer would present this camera to market at the asking price shown, when a modicum of research would sound some very loud alarm bells.

Nevertheless, an interesting Rollei listing!

Ray


Yeah I think, while an original Rollei product (given the provenance papers), this may be shelved as an "Oddity"; there is market for this things (although I'm not part of that market). I think your assumption about some tech at Rollei completing the camera from odd bits may be correct.

Marcelo
 
I'm beginning to wonder if some of the dealers know what they are selling. Today, I have seen a German dealer offer a black model Rolleiflex T in rather indifferent used condition with a description as a 3.5F - and a price of 979 Euros. The fact that is a White Face hardly makes it that valuable.

I do worry for the unwary first-time buyer, with this sort of thing happening.

ray
 
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