Samsung's answer to m4/3?

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I hope it is good, though with my experience with various samsung cameras I dont have high hopes. They never had any thought of image quality in them at all, basically they all sucked big time. One can only hope that they are getting image quality tips from someone else now.

(from the front that camera is awfully ugly)
 
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The leaked Pentax looks more like the back of a bridge camera - no hot shoe, macro button etc. But I guess we'll find out in a day or two.

I especially like that Samsung are showing it with a pancake lens.

But I'm really happy that 2009 looks like it will be the first year people who want small, high quality digital cameras will finally have a choice - DP1/2, G1, whatever Olympus make, this, and maybe a Pentax version too.
 
Yeah, that Pentax is a superzoom.

Colin, I actually have high hopes for the Samsung--the latest generation of Pentax DSLR's have rebadged Samsung equivalents, which share the same really excellent sensor. The K20D sensor is terrific, and I wonder if it, or a variant of it, will be in this camera. It's APS-C at any rate.
 
This could be interesting. Fortunately, PMA is just around the corner, so we won't have to wait too long for confirmation. If the price is lower than the G1, things could get interesting.
 
Yay.
Now we wait to see what they say about lenses. The one article that mentioned the samsung may use pentax mount doesn't make much sense to me. Half the goodness of going without a mirror is the potential for good small lenses.
 
dazedgonebye said:
Yay.
Now we wait to see what they say about lenses. The one article that mentioned the samsung may use pentax mount doesn't make much sense to me. Half the goodness of going without a mirror is the potential for good small lenses.
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Yeah, I suppose the mount doesn't matter. This is from the press release, though:

Samsung Digital Imaging Company also creates a much more efficient vertical alignment between related Samsung affiliate business units including semiconductor, LCD panel and consumer electronics. This new vertical alignment will create competitive advantages for Samsung by fostering greater collaboration between Samsung affiliate business units and allowing the company to develop and deliver highly-innovative digital imaging products that set the standard for the industry, including the newly unveiled NX Series.
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This says "Pentax glass" to me. I hope so, anyway.
 
Avotius said:
I hope it is good, though with my experience with various samsung cameras I dont have high hopes. They never had any thought of image quality in them at all, basically they all sucked big time. One can only hope that they are getting image quality tips from someone else now.

(from the front that camera is awfully ugly)
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Samsung has essentially been making two very different camera lines. Their consumer cameras are pretty much as you said, but they have been working in collaboration with Pentax on their co-issued dSLR cameras, and the Pentax K20D has a Samsung sensor - it's been noted to be a good camera and a good sensor.
 
mabelsound said:
Yeah, that Pentax is a superzoom.

Colin, I actually have high hopes for the Samsung--the latest generation of Pentax DSLR's have rebadged Samsung equivalents, which share the same really excellent sensor. The K20D sensor is terrific, and I wonder if it, or a variant of it, will be in this camera. It's APS-C at any rate.
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Yes I guess I should have mentioned that I was talking about Samsungs own cameras not their rebadged stuff.


dazedgonebye said:
Yay.
Now we wait to see what they say about lenses. The one article that mentioned the samsung may use pentax mount doesn't make much sense to me. Half the goodness of going without a mirror is the potential for good small lenses.
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I dont see how they could use the pentax mount lenses since they are all made for cameras that have mirrors, in other words big deep bodies which this does not look like.
 
Avotius said:
Yes I guess I should have mentioned that I was talking about Samsungs own cameras not their rebadged stuff.

I dont see how they could use the pentax mount lenses since they are all made for cameras that have mirrors, in other words big deep bodies which this does not look like.
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Dang.
I came back to correct myself on that notion, but you'd already caught my goof.
Yea, obviously it could not take Pentax glass.
 
dazedgonebye said:
Yay.
Now we wait to see what they say about lenses. The one article that mentioned the samsung may use pentax mount doesn't make much sense to me. Half the goodness of going without a mirror is the potential for good small lenses.
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I can't imagine how it could use a traditional Pentax K mount. The flange-to-film distance would be wrong if they tried to make it compatible with current lenses, and if they went with an entirely new lens design (which I suppose they must) then there is no particular advantage to keep the K mount, it would just confuse people.

Pentax/Samsung already have a great ability to interchange with all the past Pentax lenses, which I enjoy myself, being an *ist DS owner. Going with a K mount on this would not get them anything.

I'd love to see them join the 4/3 standards group, but the seem not to have done that. So, a new mount, I guess. Hmmm. Well, we'll see!
 
I assume that, if this is a collaborative project with Pentax, then this mount's relationship to the K mount would be the same as the m4/3 mount's relationship to the 4/3 mount. Which is to say, similar technology, different registration distance, and an adapter provided early in the game.

My fantasy would be that Samsung would put out a K mount adapter that would allow autofocus to be used with Pentax DA and FA limiteds.
 
bmattock said:
I can't imagine how it could use a traditional Pentax K mount. The flange-to-film distance would be wrong if they tried to make it compatible with current lenses, and if they went with an entirely new lens design (which I suppose they must) then there is no particular advantage to keep the K mount, it would just confuse people.

Pentax/Samsung already have a great ability to interchange with all the past Pentax lenses, which I enjoy myself, being an *ist DS owner. Going with a K mount on this would not get them anything.

I'd love to see them join the 4/3 standards group, but the seem not to have done that. So, a new mount, I guess. Hmmm. Well, we'll see!
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I've got to stop saying things so obviously dumb...too many people catch me at it.

m4/3rds would mean going away from their established sensors. I'm happier if they stay with the 1.5 crop sensor.
 
mabelsound said:
I assume that, if this is a collaborative project with Pentax, then this mount's relationship to the K mount would be the same as the m4/3 mount's relationship to the 4/3 mount. Which is to say, similar technology, different registration distance, and an adapter provided early in the game.

My fantasy would be that Samsung would put out a K mount adapter that would allow autofocus to be used with Pentax DA and FA limiteds.
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That would be interesting. Pentax has recently moved to a newer form of autofocus motor, placing it in the lens instead of the body where it had previously been. The newest Pentax dSLR cameras have support for both. I would imagine Samsung/Pentax might forgo the use of both systems, save some money, and support the newer supersonic motor-lenses only in backward-compatibility mode. It would make sense - an electrical contact instead of a mechanical one.

As with the G1 - I wonder what manual focus will be like.
 
bmattock said:
As with the G1 - I wonder what manual focus will be like.
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That's the clincher, eh? If the evf is as good as the G1's, if it's the same sensor as the K20D, and if K-mount and M-mount adapters become available, I'll find a way to buy one. The idea of a compact APS-C camera that will take every single lens I own is irresistible!
 
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